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Hi,

We are 3 french people doing a long road trip this summer from India to Paris, via Pakistan, China and Khirgizistan. We plan to arrive at the Pakistani-Chinese border between the 21st of August and the 30th of August. We will then need a guide from Pundjerab pass up to the Khirgiz-Chinese border, as asked by the chinese authorities. We are currently looking for people who would like to join us to reduce the costs, and we are also asking several touring agencies to try and find the best price (for now the best we have found was 550$/pers, but seems strange, as it is quite lower than the others). Feel free to reply to my post if you have any useful information, or if you want to join us!



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Hi,

We are 3 french people doing a long road trip this summer from India to Paris, via Pakistan, China and Khirgizistan. We plan to arrive at the Pakistani-Chinese border between the 21st of August and the 30th of August. We will then need a guide from Pundjerab pass up to the Khirgiz-Chinese border, as asked by the chinese authorities. We are currently looking for people who would like to join us to reduce the costs, and we are also asking several touring agencies to try and find the best price (for now the best we have found was 550$/pers, but seems strange, as it is quite lower than the others). Feel free to reply to my post if you have any useful information, or if you want to join us!



Thanks a lot,
Best regards,

Samuel

Locals living around northern KKH (Gilgit & Hunza) in Pakistan dont need visas to visit or work in China and many of them own businesses there. They can be a good source of information and contacts in China. You will be crossing this area on your way.
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Hi Omie,

thanks for your reply. In the meantime we have contacted several touring agent, and have received the following quote:

If the 3 motorcycles and stay in China 5 days the cost is: 1300 USD The cost in detail is as following: 1 Permit for enter China: 50 USD2 license plates: 30 USD *3 motorcycles = 90 USD 3 Insurance for the guest: 10 USD p/p *3= 30 USD 4 Insurance for the third person: 40 USD *3 / motorcycles = 120 USD 5 Fee for the Customs: Khoqirap Pass: 200 USD for three motorcycles Turgart pass: 200 USD for three cycles 6 Driving License: 20 USD *3= 60 USD 7 Service for the guide: 80 USD a day * 5 days= 400 USD 8 Trance for the guide: 150 USD. ( Kashgar –Khonqirap Pass and Kashgar- Irkeshitan pass).

Do you know a bit about the details? For instance the customs fee seems huge, and I don't know what "Trance for the guide" means...

Thanks a lot,Best regards,Samuel
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Hi Sam,
Entry into Pakistan from Khanjerab is a preferred route and the only one where you can get VOI. I havent taken my bike to China (prefer renting or buying 125 cc) so cant comment but HUBBERS like Donato (Dnicolletti), Fabian (Saliadarunavuelta) and many others who crossed China should be able to help.
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Is Taher still around?

What email does he respond to these days?

vette
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TBH, I still remain very skeptic about the real need to hire a guide and have all these overpriced paperwork bureaucracy done by agency stuff in order to fit to chinese laws.

The following website kept my attention:

Provisions on Administration of Motor Vehicles and Drivers of Temporary Entry

I will be travelling to China for XMas 2012 (not by bike tho), which will be my second visit to this country. I will try to figure out In Situ, with, of course, the help of native chinese.

Personally, in the scope of my later SE Asia trip, it will be black or white. Either travel alone or simply avoid China (alternatively a cheap flight and a couple of weeks stay will definitely be much more worth the money tho)



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Hello Arkean,

That is an interesting document, which suggests an easier temporary import, than what the agents would have us believe.

It almost appears that one can do this import of temporary motor vehicle one self.

OK, the foreign language to Chinese translations would need to be handled by a translator services of acceptance to the Beijing Traffic management.

Did you say that you were planning to visit China in December 2012, but without your bike?

Then I hope you will be able to find more information on the temporary import situation.

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