Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > West and South Asia
West and South Asia From Turkey to Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, India, Nepal, Ladakh and Bangladesh
Photo by Mark Newton, Mexican camping

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Mark Newton,
Camping in the Mexican desert



Like Tree24Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #61  
Old 6 Mar 2014
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Tehran, Iran
Posts: 22
CdP for Iran

@paperfoot:
sorry to disappoint you, but, no, Carnet de passage is still required for bringing in the vehicle. At least officially.
This thread was related to the question whether a Tour Guide is compulsory.
My advise is to get a CdP even though there might be ways around this rule. But only for peope that accept the risk of getting into some discussions upon entry and within Iran...
For more details check for the threads related to CdP in this forum.
Cheers,
Daniel
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old 8 Mar 2014
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2
Hi guys!

This is my first post on Horizons unlimited. I am a British backpacker and usually use TA and Lonely Planet but had a browse on this site and saw there was much more activity on here.

I am travelling in Iran for only 1 week in the last week of this month, entering and exiting at IKA Airport. I applied for my visa code in the first week of February. I received my code before the new rules regarding British and Canadian citizens came into place and collected the visa in Istanbul last month with no mention of this new rule even though I stated on my visa application I would be travelling independently. My tour operator has said I will be fine to travel independently but I can't get the thought of an unexpected surprise at the airport out of my head.

Yes it is a bit different to travelling with a motor cycle or car but I will keep an eye out for whats being said on here in the next couple of weeks.
Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old 9 Mar 2014
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Tehran, Iran
Posts: 22
Rules

@stuartdOdds:
these rules are no real rules.
I called again the foreign ministry today regarding special rules for travelers being citizens of the US, UK, CAN or else.
There is no such rule requiring them to have a Tour Guide!
What is necessary is a reference code for the visa, which usually is acquired by Travel Agencies outside of Iran thru their partner agencies inside Iran.
There - for individual travelers - some details of the port of entry, duration of stay, route etc must be disclosed.
But, besides these rather harmless regulations neither the ministry nor the official Touring and Automobile Club of IRI did confirm the existence of a rule regarding a Tour Guide being compulsory for foreigners.
So, in case you reach the Iranian border, do not get offended by lengthy, intransparent procedures. Just stay friendly and negotiate your way through.
In Iran we say: "if somebody makes the pot hotter than the soup" then this somebody wants to make things more difficult than they really are...
So, good luck - and you will will definitively have a wonderful stay in Iran!
Greets,
Daniel
Reply With Quote
  #64  
Old 9 Mar 2014
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 602
Quote:
Originally Posted by FLH80 View Post
@stuartdOdds:
these rules are no real rules.
I called again the foreign ministry today regarding special rules for travelers being citizens of the US, UK, CAN or else.
For years, the rule has been that Americans cannot travel independently in Iran.... perhaps this is not a de facto rule, but it is certainly de jure

Either that or all the visa agents are taking the law into their own hands...?
__________________
4.5 years around Eurasia in a Toyota Hilux|http://eurasiaoverland.wordpress.com/
Pictures Here|https://picasaweb.google.com/113619413612674951960
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old 9 Mar 2014
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cornwall, in the far southwest of England, UK
Posts: 597
Quote:
Originally Posted by danielsprague View Post
Either that or all the visa agents are taking the law into their own hands...?
I'll second that.

Just heard from my UK-based agent this morning, after a wait of almost four weeks (i.e. since Feb-10th):

"We are not able to continue with your visa application as, at the moment there is a rule in place for British to have a guide but it may change in near future. I will contact to update.

Kind regards"



.
__________________
Right Way Round ...

Reply With Quote
  #66  
Old 9 Mar 2014
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2
Thanks for the feedback guys, much appreciated!

So you think I will be ok to travel independently? I received my visa code on the 19th February after sending off the application on the 6th Feb. I got my visa stamped on the 25th February.

I am a 21 year old British student travelling to Iran alone during my mid semester break, which might make airport officers a bit more wary of me. I would hate to have an unpleasant surprise at the airport by not having a tour guide or being part of an organised tour.

You say the tour operators might be taking things into there own hands but in these threads it states the MFA are enforcing the rules...

HTML Code:
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTopic-g293998-i9139-k7232531-No_More_Independent_Iran_Travel_for_British_Canadians-Iran.html
HTML Code:
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=2384790&messageID=21261535#21261535
HTML Code:
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=2385993
I also wonder if travelling during the Persian New Year Nowruz will have any affect on things.

Sorry if I sound a bit panicky here but I've been looking forward to this trip for so long and would it hate it if was scuppered!
Reply With Quote
  #67  
Old 9 Mar 2014
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Tehran, Iran
Posts: 22
Nowruz

Hi,
I would say: no worry!
This is Iran. There are no 100% applications of rules - even those that really exist.
Regarding Nowruz:
yes, all Iran is in a special state of mind during these days. And traveling. So there is people everywhere traveling, camping, having their "spring-break".
That does rather mean that they are in a happy mood, so even less stressful regarding visitors.
So, again: friendly encounter with the authorities helps along everywhere.
And if you need to convince someone that you are a peaceful, friendly person, no threat to Iran etc. just tell him very friendly how much you are interested in his country, that you have heard so many positive things about the famous country of Iran and the hospitable Iranians, so that you wish to meet and see.... and that people should not trust the media or politicians but meet in person with the world... - this will break every ice so that they will let you go your way!
If you run into problems, gimme a call. I send you my phone number through private message.
Greets,
Daniel
Reply With Quote
  #68  
Old 10 Mar 2014
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Beirut / Lebanon
Posts: 197
Hi FLH80 and others on this thread,

A German traveller has just posted on the "Wuestenschiff" forum that his request to travel through Iran by car was rejected outright by the Iranian embassy in Berlin. Even his argument that he had commissioned a licenced guide did not convince the consular official. If this the new rule of the game, there would indeed be another dead end street in the Middle East. Can anybody confirm this or describe recent opposite experiences?

Greetings,
Achim
Reply With Quote
  #69  
Old 11 Mar 2014
chris's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: GOC
Posts: 3,327
I've taken the opportunity to delete a few recent unhelpful off-topic posts. Hope that's ok with everyone.
Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old 11 Mar 2014
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Cambridge, UK
Posts: 672
no worries.. just nestling in for a bit of mingmongpingpong.

In other news, i've just emailed the Iranian Embassy in Wellington NZ asking if they will let me in with a motorbike and British passport. Be interesting to hear their answer. Will update if they get back to me.
Reply With Quote
  #71  
Old 11 Mar 2014
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 10
Key2Persia have got back to me - they can't provide visas for Brits or Canadians, regardless of vehicle, unless we sign up on their tours. I asked about whether there was a workaround based on the previous posts in this thread, but rules is rules apparently.
Reply With Quote
  #72  
Old 15 Mar 2014
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 11
Stuart - you'll be fine. I've been to Iran twice (for a total of just over four months) and independent travellers aren't loooked upon in a strange way.

The only thing is.. if you're there during Nowruz you're going to be in for a bit of a surprise! Tehran is EMPTY. I went biking around it last year and couldn't believe the air clarity and how there was no reason to stop. I saw less than a hundred vehicles on the road since everyone had gone to their hometowns. A special time for sure.
Reply With Quote
  #73  
Old 16 Mar 2014
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Tehran, Iran
Posts: 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by achim-in-jordan View Post
Hi FLH80 and others on this thread,

A German traveller has just posted on the "Wuestenschiff" forum that his request to travel through Iran by car was rejected outright by the Iranian embassy in Berlin. Even his argument that he had commissioned a licenced guide did not convince the consular official. If this the new rule of the game, there would indeed be another dead end street in the Middle East. Can anybody confirm this or describe recent opposite experiences?

Greetings,
Achim
Achim,
tell him to contact me directly, and I will see what I can do for him.
Sent you my personal email as PM.
Greets,
Daniel
Reply With Quote
  #74  
Old 17 Mar 2014
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 136
I got a reference number through Stantours, dropped my passport off at Iranian Embassy Canberra and got a call two days later to pick up my visa (even through they said two weeks when it was dropped off!).

No where on the application form did it ask for method of travel...only point of entry. Why would you raise an issue like motor vehicle if you are not asked???


Take the path of least resistance.
Reply With Quote
  #75  
Old 20 Mar 2014
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: slovenia
Posts: 6
Today i visited the Iranian ambasy in slovenia for tourist visa to Iran and the guy there just said that they don't like to give visa for people entering iran with their car because of the situation in Afgan, Iraq, Syria but he said that we should get it in eight working days, we hope so! And nobody told us that we need a guide to travel through Iran.
I realy don't know where is the catch entering Iran with your own vehicle!!!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
China - May/June 2013. Sharing guide costs (Nepal to Kyrgyzstan) sanpedro Travellers Seeking Travellers 68 30 Mar 2016 18:38
Do you bring a local guide in your car when travelling? wingsofpenguin 4 wheel Overland Travel 8 27 Aug 2013 17:34
Iran - Guide Necessary? Alternatives? October/Nov 13 chris2790 West and South Asia 0 9 Jul 2013 10:30
'Vehicle-dependent Expedition Guide' for Sale ~ David Nimrod Overland Vehicles and Equipment for Sale / Wanted 0 2 Feb 2013 19:32
Karakorum Highway, Kyrgyzstan, China, Pakistan, Summer 2012- sharing guide costs Fern Travellers Seeking Travellers 105 3 Jun 2012 01:07

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

HU Event and other updates on the HUBB Forum "Traveller's Advisories" thread.
ALL Dates subject to change.

2024:

2025:

  • Queensland is back! Date TBC - May?

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

HUBBUK: info

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 18:02.