Patrick, is there any chance that you could check for the part number of the 2008 KLR doohickey? Or is there word around if Kawasaki has a new doohickey? I am too curious if they have changed anything.
No 2008 KLR's down here before the end of the year :-( Also no parts catalog.

Sometimes it takes them a few months to get them on a new bike.

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The full name of the malicious doohickey is: 13168 - 1436 Lever, idler shaft

Kawasaki never admitted any problems with the doohickey. I assume It will either be a quiet change to a different part or maybe if we are really lucky an upgraded part replacing the old one. (Like the upgraded DR 650 cylinder foot gasket in 2004)

If they did not do anything at all I will order a bucket full of Eagle Levers from Arrowhead :-)

Hi lecap,

well I've just logged onto Kawasaki's UK system and can advise that part number 13168-1436 has been superceeded to 13168-0046.

Hope this is of help to you.

Regards

Reggie AKA The Cameraman

Hi Reggie,

thanks for the info, I will order one tomorrow and see what I get.

I still have two 13168-1436 in stock.
Will get the new part and destroy one of each to be able to compare.
If the new part is backwards compatible (should?) it comes down to the price.

As someone who has ridden both sports bikes and the KLR on winding mountain roads -- yes, it will handle on a winding mountain road. But the riding position and height of the bike do make it handle differently than a sport bike. On a sport bike, you're crouched down so that you can easily hang off the bike with a simple shift to make it really go around curves. Hanging off a KLR doesn't really work unless you're as limber as a babboon, it's just too tall and the seating position too upright. The upside is that a KLR is so tall that it sorta hangs off all by itself without any involvement from you. But it is definitely a different feel, you're riding "with" the bike, rather than hanging off of it. Also you will not be going as fast around curves as a sportbike will, both because of the general geometry of how you're sitting on the bike and because the tires are so much narrower than a modern sportbike's tires. However, you will still be going around curves far faster than any four-wheeled vehicle short of perhaps a full-fledged sports car with extremely wide and sticky tires.

Note that tires make a big difference here too. Street-oriented tires make the KLR handle really well. In general, the closer you get to a true dirt bike knobby, the worse it will handle on the road. Right now I am riding Continental TKC-80's on the road and definitely do not push them as hard as I push Avon Gripsters on the road. On the other hand, I push them harder than I would push a Kenda 270 on the road (Kenda 270's are known for their slippery and squirmy on-road handling). Also, you set up the bike a little differently for the road. For best handling on-road you set it up with firmer suspension so that you don't get all that pitching motion. In the extreme you can even get "death wobble" from that pitching motion. For offroad use you want slightly soggier suspension (but not so soggy that you're always bottoming it!) in order to soak up the bumps better and thus keep your tires on the ground more. I usually run my suspension a bit on the firm side for better on-road handling, at the expense of a bit of ride quality on and offroad. Others choose differently. The KLR is pretty easy to set up however you want it, but everything requires compromises. The KLR itself is one giant compromise, a rather slow dirt bike on the street, and a rather heavy street bike on the dirt.

I don't know if this answers your question. The KLR does quite well on the street (well enough that I sold my Kawasaki Concours sport-tourer because, frankly, the KLR is just more comfortable as a tourer, albeit much slower), if that answers your question. I do know that I didn't notice much difference between my KLR and the F650GS that I test-rode, other than the fact that the F650GS has more power and a lower center of gravity. Handling seemed pretty much the same between the two.

-E

Hi owned few KLR and to my opinion for tavelling one up in SA america the bike bike is much more capable that the BMW 650 , I tried the 650 BMW on some long ride and if you stick to the HWY the bmw is the best , but as soon as you go off road the klr is really a SUV type bike able to cross river , take as much abuse as you can handle. I know that the klr need to be updated but for $2000 you can equipe it with luggage , protection bar ,better brake and more goodys,you will less stress when doing your maintenanceas the bike is pretty much bullet proof, the good news is with the new model of KLR coming for 08 the 06 / 05 should become dirt cheap.

Hendi

Hi chaps

I know you can lower a seat on GS650.
Can you do the same on a KLR, say down to 80 cm or even less?

Thanks

Paolo

Yes and no. While the KLR supposedly has a seat height of 35" (88cm), around 3" of that disappears immediately into sag the moment you tip the bike up onto its tires. I have a 32" (80cm) inseam and did not have any trouble getting my feet down with the stock seat because of a) the sag in the springs when you put weight on the bike, and b) the soft foam of the seat, which squished down another inch. Indeed, when I switched to a firmer wider seat for additional comfort, I had to add 1" lowering links to get me back down to where I was.

If you want a bike that is sized more towards smaller/shorter people, the GS is certainly an option, but the Suzuki DR650 is probably an even better one. It is as stone-axe simple as the Kawasaki (even simpler, actually), but side by side it is significantly shorter in both height and length. I am right at the boundary between DR-sized and KLR-sized (as I noted, I can put the soles of my boots on the ground with the stock KLR, but only barely), so I got a KLR because I found one cheap. But if I had run across a DR cheap, I would have bought the DR instead.

The DR650 is built so that it can be lowered by the dealer pre/post sale. The mounting points are built-in to the bike from the factory, a well thought-out design. I'm surprised we don't see this on more bikes.

The DR also 'feels' smaller and lighter than the KLR. This is noticed within 2.3 seconds after straddling the bike.

The F650GS Dakar. More accessories available. FI, ABS (when needed), HHG, and more. Not the perfect bike. But best in class.

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This should IMHO read:
The F650GS Dakar. More OEM accessories available.
Nothing wrong with available accessories of all kinds for KLR's. See DualStar, Arrowhead...

Best in WHAT class?

The advantage of FI on a touring bike is debatable. I have definitely seen more people wiht FI problems than with carb problems.

You can buy a set of heated grips for a few hundred Rand. Why spend 30000 Rand more on a bike that has OEM heated grips?

When it costs 50% more than comparable bikes, the F650 is in a class of it's own

I'm a former owner of both an F650 and a KLR and spent 2 1/2 years riding in South America; there's no question in my mind the KLR is the better bike - it's not even close.

My two cents,
James

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This is a great thread as currently I am looking at a bike for a 12 months trip round Sth America in about 12-15 months time and the KLR had been on the shopping list. I have a couple questions for those knowledgeable ones in particular...
How do you think the new one rates given the specs as it seems to address some of the concerns with lights, doohicky, seat, "A high-capacity 36W alternator powers a new higher-output headlight" better spokes, stronger suspension (although less travel) etc etc. So does it seem like it will be a better travel bike? Motorcycle Daily

My other question is a few people mention vibration about the singles and i realise the thread is KLR Vs f650 but why has no-one mentioned the Honda Transalp? It is also a bike that is in the ring for me at the moment and i was a bit surprised to see that it had not been mentioned. We can still get them new in Australia whereas i know in other parts of the world you cannot so maybe that is why? How do they compare?

Thanks
Chris