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I built some of the first nineT's in Europe. I had a good play on the ones I built too. Now you can't get them until 2015.

They were fun. That engine really is nice in a light frame with good suspension. Did it blow my world. Not even close. Exciting..... Nope ! A bit different...... Yes.. Worth the price tag. hmmmm.. Not to me. You could have a much higher speced Ducati or MV Augusa for the same price or less.

In fact, I'd take two bikes for the same price as a nice T...
Same here. The NineT is a nice bike, I quite enjoyed it when I tested it, but it's too damn expensive.
Would I buy one for myself ? Definitely not, would buy a Triumph Bonnie or a Thruxton, or a Guzzi Griso or even a R1200R, but not this thing.

But it seems that it's selling pretty well, so, well done BMW...
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Same here. The NineT is a nice bike, I quite enjoyed it when I tested it, but it's too damn expensive.
Would I buy one for myself ? Definitely not, would buy a Triumph Bonnie or a Thruxton, or a Guzzi Griso or even a R1200R, but not this thing.

But it seems that it's selling pretty well, so, well done BMW...
I wouldn't buy the R Nine T either, but it's apparently doing (or helping to do)
exactly what BMW had planned: Bring younger riders into the BMW fold.

If you listen to the CEO speeches to dealers you'll find this theme of an "aging clientele" mentioned. They know their customer base are dying off and aging quickly. The GS's success has helped with this a lot, but BMW know they have to go further. Hence a bike like the R Nine T. Getting guys like Roland Sands and several famous Euro custom bike builders on board does not hurt.

Ah ! Guzzi Griso! Love it! Here's the one I rode for a couple weeks back in '07. A great bike once you figure out how to ride it. (not easy!)

It's amazing the cheap deals you can now find on this first generation Guzzi Grisso. New, here in USA, they were about $12K usd in 2007. Now, I've seen them for $6K to $7K usd in perfect condition. Lot of bike for that price. You never see another one!
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Well actually I'm young (23 yrs old), already a BMW rider (with a F650GS Dakar, and more than 50'000 km on the clock since I started riding in 2009) but even if I had the money to buy one, I'd not buy a Nine T, even if the sound is great, the style not so bad either etc.

The problem is that it's damn expensive, but without the telelever, without ESA, without combined ABS (maybe it has, not so sure now), without the ASC and the fork is from the S1000RR but not even ajustable.

It's a simple bike for a price tag absolutely absurd... but they manage somehow to sell it anyway...

Your Griso looked damn nice in red like that (those italian sure know how to design vehicles !). I've never tried a Guzzi but if the engine behaves like a 1200 Boxer I'd be more than happy !
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Nine T is basically the old 1200 engine in a simple frame with a pair of BMW s1000 forks. They're sold out. Unavailable until 2015 so I believe.

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Well actually I'm young (23 yrs old), already a BMW rider (with a F650GS Dakar, and more than 50'000 km on the clock since I started riding in 2009) but even if I had the money to buy one, I'd not buy a Nine T, even if the sound is great, the style not so bad either etc.

The problem is that it's damn expensive, but without the telelever, without ESA, without combined ABS (maybe it has, not so sure now), without the ASC and the fork is from the S1000RR but not even ajustable.

It's a simple bike for a price tag absolutely absurd... but they manage somehow to sell it anyway...

Your Griso looked damn nice in red like that (those italian sure know how to design vehicles !). I've never tried a Guzzi but if the engine behaves like a 1200 Boxer I'd be more than happy !
Almost ALL new bikes are expensive ... but BMW are certainly at or near the top of the list. Very expensive! Here in the USA BMW have amazing Zero interest financing and lots of younger riders go for this. (mistake, IMO)

Read my earlier posts as to WHY the R NINE T is selling well. Sort answer:
Image, status, cache'.

The Griso motor is a delight. A bit agricultural but entertaining. The chassis and suspension take some getting used to and require proper set up.

Also, the rider may need a couple weeks and a few thousand kms. to get used to it. It's very weird at first ... and most hate it. But after a while ... you LEARN the "Guzzi way". Very different ... and no other bike like it.

When I had that Griso ... it drew a crowd everywhere it was parked.
(rode all over Northern California)
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Here's a nine T. Got one stripped down on my bench today. Its literally a 1200gs engine in a small frame. They've been clever with weight saving and making components smaller. They abs pump for example is half the size than on any other BMW. Now why couldn't BMW do this with their GS ??
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