Thats the price they said if I bought the bike from them - I think thats cost price as they will be buying the bikes engines in Bulk - who knows but BMW do have a tendency to up the price of parts to really silly money. Jake.

I'd buy the CCM just to be able to buy engines at that price.

Then I'd sell them to BMW owners for £4000

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Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
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It never occured to me that a USP for buying a certain make/model of bike is the (alleged lack of) cost of a replacement engine. I prefer bikes where you never need to replace an entire engine.

I'll stick to the complete bike that cost me the same price as one CCM engine. I wish I had the money to p!ss against the wall for a BMW engine. Or if I had this sort of money I would spend it on petrol and cerveza doing a trip.

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Chris your being a bit snobby this subject are you not - remember if no one buys a bike new - then you would never get your cheap second hand bike. Also they are not always loss makers just because you buy new, keep them long enough you get to ride them for many years then sell them for more than they originally cost. To name a few ( Ducati 900ss bought new 1976 £1800 sold in 1983 £3000 - if i had kept it it would be £15000 now, Laverda Monty bought for £1000 sold for £3000 (about £8000 now), laverda jota bought for £1800 sold for £6000 ( these can bring about £8000 now), 80 gs bought for £2000 sold after 110,000miles and a big restore for £7000 (actually just broke even on that one though - spent to much on the restore as i intended keeping it but sold when I thought I wouldnt ride again). KTM 950 bought new for £6500 had loads of fun for three years and sold it for £3 -£3500 but they are now around £4 to 5000 and rising).

As for the CCM engine debate - point I brought it up is simple - almost every bike I have owned has ended when the engine parts not being available / or getting too expensive etc, I know you buy rats and would throw away and start again but I would prefer to keep the thing going and have owned some of my bikes well over 20 years before they became difficult and simply very very expensive or no longer economic to repair - the chassis suspension etc all last for ever and are easy repaired, so If I am going to spend eight grand on a bike that will see me to the end of my bike riding days - i wanted to know if rather than rebuilding the thing ( ie like my last 80gs ) if it would be more economic to simply slot a new unit in. CCM agreed and have put forward the proposal and costing of replacement engine. So in years to come my one wont be on the market for you to buy for next to nowt to ride down to Africa or where ever and drink your at my expense. . jake.

Hi Jake
Having a different opinion to you doesn't make me snobby. I admire your trust in untested technology and your willingness to pay over the odds for what is essentially a dirtbike with a few more bits of plastic strapped to it.

You know my views on the BMW brand and how it failed me so badly. So there's absolutely no chance what so ever of me buying this CCM, new or used off you, considering it's connection to BMW.

Or Loncin


A Loncin powered DRZ Gsxxxer..., photo by me, near Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan, Summer 2012

I saw a Laverda Jota and a Ducati 900ss (Mike the Bike Hailwood replica) the other day at Eddie's Motorcycles here in Shipley, West Yorks. Great looking bits of kit. I'm envious to never have owned either. I did ride a mate's Jota once though.

I'll buy you a if you're coming to Roadkill Cookout Danny's Hagg's Bank event on 21/22 September.

PS. In a previous version of your above post (you've edited it at least twice) you suggested I ride rats until they die and then bin them. That was originally the plan :-), but they never die :-(, so I can't ever bring myself to bin them. Hence, I own 6 bikes whose combined cost to me was less than the 8 grand for this CCM, including a Triumph roadbike that cost me 3.8 grand.

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Your right Chris snobby is the wrong term - i amended the post trying to find the right word and a different opinion was not what I was trying to convey as we all have different opinions on stuff. I know 8 grand is a huge amount of money more than I would have ever spent on any bike - but other than an indian enfield I really have no other bikes now I want one bike for small trips it need to be light have excellent suspension and running gear, I dont look at jap stuff so that rules out a massive part of the bike arena in this catagory and where possible i like to buy british where I can even if in this case the engine developed by BMW used by husqvarna and made in Tiawan is maybe not my ideal combination. But I like the look of the bike - I will ride it and if it does not suit I wont buy it, then again if it does I will and will keep it as my only bike for the next umpteen years till i eventually give up riding altoghether. Due to being knackered i wont be doing any distance stuff. Be good to see you in any case and maybe I owe you a for being a bit harsh in my wording and yes i will be up at the do you mentioned with Iain and debz. So see you there - will be on the Infield though.

You keep mentioning it and I am curious to know...........what is your ethical problem with buying Japanese bikes?

In what way are the other manufacturers more ethical?