EXTENSIVE or expensive ? Stator bolts, water pump seal, . . . what mod was expensive ?

Classic ? Sure, a box of parts that is neither lovely (the rear shock looks like something from Soviet days, the thin magnesium case covers on an already heavy bike will puncture from a hard stare, the brakes which are at their limit BEFORE a subtle mod to airbox and jetting, the ridiculously thin (22g) electrical wiring to the similarly pathetic headlight, etc) nor inspiring (torqueless even after carb & intake mods and 5-speeds (!)).

Yeah . . . the TE610 is powered by a very street-oriented motor. The subsequent TE630 has the benefit of the same overbuilt bottom-end and a better top-end (from the TE510, a race bike) but in both cases a significantly lowered state of tune. Husky was very forward stating that the "TE630 is the most street-oriented motorbike we've ever made . . . following on the TE610".

The TE630 is supposed to be 20% more powerful than the TE610 and that's been widely discredited. If there's one complaint with the TE6xx's it's that they make significantly less power and use significantly more fuel than a KTM 690. I have a TE630 and at the price point it was a good value and if possible would have it in Thailand replacing my DRZ400 in a heart beat !

The 450 was . . . forced on Husky. It does not have a great rep, deservedly or not. If it were so good . . . why would BMW abandon it ?

Few if any on this forum MUST ride a motorbike. Being entirely rational is a bit . . . odd. It's two wheels - it's inherently unstable . . . it should be FUN. Kymco 125 . . . fun ? To each his own but just riding to cover miles . . . or to do it most cheaply . . . those are the forced decisions of many people all over the world. Those who COULD have some fun SHOULD have some fun.

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Orange, it's the new black.

Expensive as in it need radiator guards, a plastic tank, case guards and 3x3 modding to make it a nice bike to ride and a hardy bike to overland across Africa. After those mods it's pretty much bullet proof IF you know how to look after them.

It's still a bit of a classic for those who like simple, easy to ride and easy to work off road bias lightweight bikes. A bit like the XT600's but lighter and more capable.

The suspension is actually pretty good. It's not race spec but it's WAY better than what comes bolted to a lot of 'Adventure bikes'..

There's nothing on a DRZ that a Haynes manual mechanic couldn't diagnose and fix. It's light enough and easy to lower so good with the ladies too.


I'd ride one RTW over an F650 ANYDAY...

So yeah.. I think it will become popular in another 5-10 years when you can't buy a single bike which doesn't need to be plugged into a computer to keep it running.

Horses for courses though isn't it..

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Did some trips.
Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
Can't say anymore.

I had on as well. The tank is about it in term of cost. But still not that much. And it holds a value somewhat. Rad guards are not necessary for adventure riding. I took mine off. Need to sell them still. Those case guards are pretty cheap I think. Most def necessary though. I didn't do the 3x3 and had no problem lifting the rear wheel. Great bike. Better trail bike, gearing wise, than my WRR, but it needs that 6th gear. There is one available.

Besides the well documented loctite fixes, what else did it need?

Well not until you get a hole in the RAD which has happened to people in the past, safer to keep them on as my current rad guards have dents from stones/small rocks and must have saved my rads from leaks






Do you have the link for this as i have been searching

My bad. It must have been a wide ratio gear set.

ACT Wide Ratio Gears

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5VyQMO9_aU

Trucks can throw up rocks, but a bit of chicken wire zip tied to the plastic guard can help. Or go bush to try and avoid the trucks and their drunk drivers in the first place.

I think it needs the 3x3 if you're loaded up. That's just my opinion. That pair valve and Carb solonoid are just something else to go wrong.

There is a 6th gear available ??? It really does need one.

The rads are really weak. I know a few people who cracked theirs with light spills.

www.touringted.com

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Did some trips.
Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
Can't say anymore.

I think I took the snorkel out besides the normal restrictions here in Oz (intake manifold obstruction and exhaust opening). We get the 'E' here though with pumper carb as standard. Never had power issues, but I never did ride it with 25-30kg of gear. Maybe 15-20, but that's trail riding.

Did they break that rad even with the big tank? I've tried my best beating it with a stick, but even sliding into a dead tree trunk didn't cause any damage at all.

I really like the idea of a 400-450cc adventure bike. The choice of engine isn't lighting my fire either though.

Sorry, messed up. No 6 gears. Wide ratio gear sets though.

Anyone got any views on the ccm by any chance ?

By the way -whilst i was looking on t internet - I checked out the adv rider thread on the bm g450x, and it seems that largely everyone liked the bike loved the engine and that reliability seemed reasonably fine and much in line with many other motors - what was certain there was not page after page of whinging about it being a bad engine with insurmountable problems - ( that is if you take the owners points of view into the case rather than the views of all the all knowing voices in the shadows - who probably at best maybe walked past a g450x or seen one in a showroom - Then again Ewan and Charlie did not even look at them never mind choose them so they cant be any good can they. (See Ted I got Ewan and Charlie back on the agenda)

[QUOTE=adventure950;428102]Anyone got any views on the ccm by any chance ?
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Somewhere back there a Mod asked for this thread to stay on topic, but what is the topic for "a single cyl adv bike" placed within "which bike"?
It's probably just as well that the search engine works pretty well nowadays, for anyone who is looking for views about DRZs, Husky this-that-and-t'other + whatever else.

Anyway, here's a couple of things to check out when test riding the CCM:-
The seat in the pic looks like a plank, a very thin plank.
I guess a test ride in July will give an idea about how it really is.

What chance of this? I would expect that the BMW 650 single cyl engine won't get to CCM anytime in the near future.
Maybe the Yam 660cc that has been found in, for instance, the Aprilia Pegaso??

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Should we start a thread about thread drift? Japanese whaling and DRZ mods in the same thread, fantastic.

From my own point of view the CCM is ticking many boxes. New means less hassle and the spec means I don't blow time on mods that I use for a while then pass to the next bloke FOC. I want long range to avoid dodgy rural petrol and either no servicing because it just works or simple servicing. I don't need CAN unless they'll give me the PC programme, but aren't worried if they do. I need the ability to cruise with the trucks if the only road open is the motorway but won't do this out of choice. I don't need 1200cc. I can ride a Triumph Bonneville on any surface I care to, so light and easy is better but I won't be joining the local MX club either. I ride two up two or three times a year, slowly, so I need maybe 25HP. I am not that tall but am a mean Yorkshireman who wants £30 tyres and 75 mpg. I have no idea if bikes have a soul or not. My old Bullet was a laugh as you could use 101% of the performance you'd bought, then it either broke or tried to kill you. My WeeStrom is boring by comparison, it just takes the abuse.

On the go anywhere front of bikes I can buy in the UK the potential singles (which I like from the power delivery point of view) seem to be:

1. CCM
2. Husqvarna.
3. Enfield.
4. Tenere
5. G650
6. KLX250 at a push.

Anything else with a 200 mile range and 60 mph cruising speed we could compare to the CCM?

What would Ewan and Charlie do if there was to be more ****ing and fewer wheelies

Andy