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Old 30 May 2020
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Good morning folks.
Right I have come across a CB500. It was accident damaged on the front end so was classed as a cat n.
It was covered from the road version to the x version. Front end wise.
15 plate. 10,000 miles. I haven't seen it, but advised it was in super clean condition (!!!!!). Good chain and sprockets. Nearly new tyres.
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As Chris and Threewheelbonnie have suggested, I would be cautious... the R model frame does have the welded boss on the front for the headlight/fairing support - which apparently is in the same location as it is on the X frame unless some welding has been done - but I cannot understand why anyone who'd had a front-end crash on an R would replace all the bodywork with X bodywork - faring, headlight, tank, seat, side panels, seat side panels, X forks (and presumably a wheel too if the original crash was severe enough to bend the forks) - to me that doesn't make financial sense at all, unless you have a very cheap (ie. stolen) X to take all the necessary parts from.

To me this stinks of some kind of ringer (not least as the V5 is going to say it's a CBR500R still) even though it is being sold by a dealer... I would certainly inspect it, and get the history on it, and run a check on the VIN too.

If that is too much bother, do what Threewheelbonnie suggests and buy the legit one for £400 more - 30,000 miles is nothing for these bikes - and you might well be able to offer a lower price on the 2013 bike too?

I'd be cautious with that R-to-X bike... that is not to say the conversion hasn't been done well, but you need to know why...

Jenny x

ps. who's to say that dash on the R-to-X bike conversion isn't the X dash (note that X dashes glow orange, R dashes are white) - and that the bike/engine has done more miles than 10,000 anyway, and just had the dash replaced with a lower mileage one as part of the rebuild? - is there any dealer/service history with this bike?
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As Chris and Threewheelbonnie have suggested, I would be cautious... the R model frame does have the welded boss on the front for the headlight/fairing support - which apparently is in the same location as it is on the X frame unless some welding has been done - but I cannot understand why anyone who'd had a front-end crash on an R would replace all the bodywork with X bodywork - faring, headlight, tank, seat, side panels, seat side panels, X forks (and presumably a wheel too if the original crash was severe enough to bend the forks) - to me that doesn't make financial sense at all, unless you have a very cheap (ie. stolen) X to take all the necessary parts from.

To me this stinks of some kind of ringer (not least as the V5 is going to say it's a CBR500R still) even though it is being sold by a dealer... I would certainly inspect it, and get the history on it, and run a check on the VIN too.

If that is too much bother, do what Threewheelbonnie suggests and buy the legit one for £400 more - 30,000 miles is nothing for these bikes - and you might well be able to offer a lower price on the 2013 bike too?

I'd be cautious with that R-to-X bike... that is not to say the conversion hasn't been done well, but you need to know why...

Jenny x

ps. who's to say that dash on the R-to-X bike conversion isn't the X dash (note that X dashes glow orange, R dashes are white) - and that the bike/engine has done more miles than 10,000 anyway, and just had the dash replaced with a lower mileage one as part of the rebuild? - is there any dealer/service history with this bike?
That's out of the window then lol
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That's out of the window then lol
Yes, like I say, it could be a perfectly legitimate Cat N rebuild - but with any bike like that you need to know the genuine history of the donor bike, plus where the replacement parts came from.

In their defence* you'd have to have a lot of front as a dealer to rebuild a bike using stolen parts and advertise it so openly, so I'm not suggesting that is actually the case here - just you need to be sure that the donor is a genuine 10,000 mile bike (the engine does look clean admittedly) - and that ultimately as you've said, being located so far away from where you live makes a drop in and chat about it before any kind of commitment a bit unrealistic...

I would keep looking - and also consider joining the CB500X (dot com) forum, as there are regularly bikes for sale there, and you're much more likely to find a genuine and enthusiastic owner selling a genuine bike with full history etc.

Jenny x

*edit. having looked at that listing in more detail again, I would be prepared to give them [the dealer] the benefit of the doubt - it appears they specialise in insurance rebuilds, and that the dash panel with the ignition on does appear clear/white (rather than orange backlight) which would imply it is the original speedo from the R donor bike... Still, I do wonder where they got all those X body panels from, and how it could have been an economic repair compared to just a fairing and headlight for an R? I appreciate the X model is arguably the most desirable of the three 2013-on CB500 bikes, but it does seem to be a lot of work for a very modest selling price.
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I have binned it.
I like this one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/233598711646
Bin the plastic panniers!!!!
What are they worth???

Or this https://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-...nt=app_android
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The NC is a bargain. The result of simply being a workhorse rather than weekend adrenaline toy. Come join us at nc700.co.uk for lots of info.

The plastic boxes are honestly worthless. While Honda did a great job making parts common across two bikes and a maxi scooter, boxes that fit everything are weird shaped and not good value. I'd ask the dealer to keep them and knock a bit off (bet he won't, he knows everyone wants GIVI/soft combo's). Failing that either just use them or you might get enough cash to fill the tank a couple of times.

Andy
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I have binned it.
I like this one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/233598711646
Bin the plastic panniers!!!!
What are they worth???

Or this https://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-...nt=app_android
Very low mileage on that NC750X - 3139 miles for a 4 year old bike. I wonder what the service history is like.
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