But is anyone say "thou shalt not use your motorcycle"? "thou shalt not use a car"?

No I think not, all that's being suggested is that in some circumstances they can also be considered as a suitable long distance touring vehicle. I wouldn't dare tell anyone what vehicle to use, all I'd do was suggest alternatives.

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Sorry Alexlebrit - but the thread is titled:

Are Quads better than bikes for traveling???

so, except in limited circumstances, certain situations, NO!

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quastdog
Chiang Mai, Thailand

Indeed, although it then goes on to expound in far greater detail, the specific times when they may be and the specific reasons why that might be so, so I was engaging with the whole thread, not just the title.

To go back to your previous post, it appears that outside some states of the US, some parts of South America, and all of Australia, a quad can be used, legally on the road. From the research I've done so far it appears Africa, India, Europe, and most of Asia are fine with this IF they've been registered for road-use in their country of origin (not certain about Antarctica though). I'd suggest that they're legal for road use in more parts of the world than they're prohibited.

So sure you can't use them everywhere, but you can use them in many places, including some where motorbikes may be either unsuitable or prohibited (increasingly in France for instance motorbikes are prohibited off-road due to over-use by noisy "scrambler" style bikes, but quads, and other motor vehicles are still allowed).

I do appreciate that some bikers appear to loathe the things with a passion, much more than they'd dislike other 4 wheeled vehicles, although I'm not certain why that's so. Is it because quads are seen as "sissy-bikes" and their riders are like those kids still using stabilisers or training wheels on their push-bikes long after the rest of us mastered balancing?

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Wait for Harley to bring one out and see the reaction.....

Andy

That made me chuckle I live in a rural setting, and all the Shepard's around here use quads with their dogs riding on the back The terrain they cross would leave a bike standing (literally), and the carrying capacity is brilliant (especially with the front racks fitted). It's lambing time now, and quads must be a godsend for them, the area that can now be covered (compared to walking) is immense ! They're not to everyone's taste, but they get the job done


Trophymick

I dont think the opinion of quads as bikes for sissies applies to agricultural use, just those select few who get a road legal quad and road tyres so they can pose around town......

I've seen shepherds in the desert carry sheep on a ural motorcycle, but I am pretty sure they would prefer a quad!

Does that apply to the shepperd or the sheep?

Good point! I guess if you have a particular fondess for bending the sheep over your lap the ural might win, would look a bit sus if you had a perfectly good but unused rack behind you

Alex like your link. I think ride or drive what you want, whatever floats your boat so to speak. If it gets you out there than who cares about the hows or whys. I like the look of quads and they are great fun in the dunes I cant store one at home as I only have room in the coal shed for 1 bike at a time but those 700 Raptors from Yam look brilliant.

For those of you who think a 'dune buggy' like those they make out of vw beetles by ripping everything out and chucking roll bars on it is a good alternative to bikes in Africa, I dare you to try that! For one its fine on a beach as the sand drops quickly but try driving that in Fesh Fesh and you will have serious health issues with your lungs. The dust in Africa is so light it can hover for hours, also making it a nightmare for anyone who is following you. On a more technical side, the VW engine suffers from overheating in dusty conditions, so loads of new air filters will be needed.

These buggies are great fun for a day out but trust me I have tried it in Africa and its not a practical day-in-day-out mode of travel on that terrain.

PS: For anyone who cares I did most of Southern Africa in a home constructed steel tubed enclosed 'sand master' with a Rover V8 engine rear mounted, built by a family friend. A bit heavy but great fun.

Trav

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'Nothing is neither right nor wrong, but what thinking makes it so'

'Where is a desert when you need one?'

We did Africa (cairo to Cape Town route) two up with a 100kg of luggage on a R100GS. We were focused on getting there and unlike some other bike travellers we met we were not tempted to go looking for off road for sport. We did take the bike up Mt. Kenya (to nearly 4000 metres) and all around Botswana and Namibia off road and never really felt restricted. It was a bit of a liabilty in deep sand due to weight and road tyres. I've owned an 1150 since and wouldn't even consider it for the same trip. The bike is much too heavy to start with and vastly overated in my opinion.

I've never liked quads even though they are road legal here but you never know, the next trip may be me on the bike and wifey on a quad - she's not safe in control of 2 wheels pedal power or engine.

"The bike is much too heavy to start with and vastly overated in my opinion"

I agree 100% Just shows what a big advertising budget does for a remarkably average motorcycle. The British can't get enough of them, I suppose the same people buy Range Rovers despite living in London. How can anybody justify the price too?!

Anyway this is just a little so I will stop before I get carried away.

Trav

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'Nothing is neither right nor wrong, but what thinking makes it so'

'Where is a desert when you need one?'