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There is a thread here abouts on my V7 STONE with comments, my aid memoirs to maintenance etc. I will link when at a PC rather than a phone.
Tomorrow I will say goodbye though.
The good points are as you say, range, simplicity, light weight, adequate power, torque, tubeless tyres on the stone etc.
I am selling because it is rotting. At two years old I am battling the sort of green loom rot and paint issues you would associate with a 20 year old BMW and never see on a Japanese bike treated with ACF. I have had a new dashboard under warranty because water got in to the "sealed" unit and blew the LED illumination. Had this blown next month it would be a £500 bulb replacement, so this isn't all 1950s tech. I have also had an FI spat which although cured by a simple hard reset (battery off), makes me suspect the loom rot again.
The shaft drive and separate clutch are just like doing a years worth of chain lube in one go. You would regret it if the clutch or even the madly routed cable went pop in darkest Umbongostan.
These are good bikes, but not flawless.
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You've probably saved me a test ride
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Originally Posted by Threewheelbonnie
There is a thread here abouts on my V7 STONE with comments, my aid memoirs to maintenance etc. I will link when at a PC rather than a phone.
Tomorrow I will say goodbye though.
The good points are as you say, range, simplicity, light weight, adequate power, torque, tubeless tyres on the stone etc.
I am selling because it is rotting. At two years old I am battling the sort of green loom rot and paint issues you would associate with a 20 year old BMW and never see on a Japanese bike treated with ACF. I have had a new dashboard under warranty because water got in to the "sealed" unit and blew the LED illumination. Had this blown next month it would be a £500 bulb replacement, so this isn't all 1950s tech. I have also had an FI spat which although cured by a simple hard reset (battery off), makes me suspect the loom rot again.
The shaft drive and separate clutch are just like doing a years worth of chain lube in one go. You would regret it if the clutch or even the madly routed cable went pop in darkest Umbongostan.
These are good bikes, but not flawless.
Andy
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Thanks for the reality check and noted that you are selling on as the warranty expires.
Is this kind of rot in the loom a common issue with the V7?
It has been said that the Guzzi paintwork finish has improved in recent years - perhaps not so much?
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Common is hard to judge. Im on close to 11000 miles, the majority in the classifieds are on half that. I suspect if you could only ride on days they would go out round Lake Garda you would avoid the water and salt and repairs. Ive been year round since 1993 so know how to apply the gunk and use the hose pipe, so am a little put off that my routine has failed. The fans are loyal and bikes relatively few, so not much has been reported that ive seen.
I could be uncharitable and say its a weekend bike. That said ive had one five minute fiddle on the hard shoulder and five weeks judging speed at night by the engine note and flashing yellow tax boxes. Its hardly Ural or chinese 125 proportions of weekend crappiness.
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You mean this bike? Few follow current Guzzi line so a Pic of the current bike is best.
I like it! Impressive! How does the price compare with the new Ducati
Scrambler?
Like Arma, I'm not a fan of shaft drive. Added weight, loss of HP. Unless you've been in a cave the last 20 years, then you'll know that modern chains are simply .... AMAZING! My last two went OVER 22K miles each.
Still, I'd count on Guzzi's shaft system over BMW's, which really has given shaft drive bikes a bad reputation in the last 20 years. (BMW GS)
I still Kick myself every time I think of what I sold my former '84 Le Man's lll for.  
Oh my, sexiest bike ever! I love Guzzi's!
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Needs a bash plate and the rear calliper protecting, then its perfectly usable. Ive done gravel sheep tracks and my own incompetance aside they do it. Very similar spec to an R80GS when you think about it. Stone wheels are better, tubeless, cheaper than proper off road spec which would be overkill for the rest of the bike and no weaker than the spoked fashion items.
Oh, and buy a gallon of Loctite. V-twin vibes and vino on a Friday lunchtime in the assembly hall are a dangerous mix. My gearlever survived on half a thread in the hole and both horns (which the Italians should be ashamed of, peep peep like a *****y vespa) did gravity tests on the wiring!
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There is a guy in the Guzzi club converted an old v65tt, slotted in a modern v7 engine , gearbox and shaft (which are all based on the original V50/V65 stuff anyway all the running gear went straight in - all the mounting points lines up like they were made for each other. Just shows the moto guzzi V7 is just a progression of bikes from the 80's, he junked the FI and computer's fitted a set of carbs and an aftermarket digital ignition (as well as a set of points as a back up). Reckons the bike runs smoother and better on the carbs than it did on FI , he has got rid of all the electronic rubbish, it runs a simple wiring harness, simple carbs and is built into a an early off road based bike that was built to rival the BMW r80gs in its day. There was a v65tt for sale on e bay last week for around £300 for spare or repair, not a bad starting point, then find a write off V7 at a breakers you have a starting point. If i had the inclination it something i would have considered a while back.
This is a v65tt picture for those that do not know the bike, he has really made a great lightweight crossbreed by adding a modern engine - and junking the electonic's and stuff that goes wrong, hope Aprillia and moto guzzi watch, listen and learn, it could be a superb travel bike if they copied the idea and released it - but keep it simple.
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I say go for it. Chains are a pain, my V-strom chain lasted 35,000 miles and I still would prefer a bulletproof shaft drive like the Guzzi. Steel frame, old school bars and headlight mean easy to replace with Chinese units in the middle of no where. I would go with the cast wheels from the regular V7 to have tubeless tires.
the main reason to overland with this is because it's not another same old same old KLRDRGS ride, which just are boring to read about on here or ADV.
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