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It really is frustrating living in the UK. No dual sport market makes life hard when searching for a lightweight tour option.
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oh please...do not sin, there are thousand of places more frustrating to live then UK
Get a KTM 690 enduro R, almost same weight as crf250l and you'll get guts to travel efficiently. 250cc is not meant for that.
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Ehm, the kato is 310 pounds dry. The WRR is 295 wet. Bit of a difference.
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WRR is simply not worthy the money they're asking, and your dealer is right - you're better off buying xt660z which costs almost the same. (if you were to buy WRR)
BTW you can wait for new crf450 Rally coming soon from honda
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completely different animal and way lower spec. And with that rational there is no point getting anything smaller than a 650.
The honda weighs 330 pound. Not even close to the mark.
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oh please...do not sin, there are thousand of places more frustrating to live then UK
Get a KTM 690 enduro R, almost same weight as crf250l and you'll get guts to travel efficiently. 250cc is not meant for that.
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WRR is simply not worthy the money they're asking, and your dealer is right - you're better off buying xt660z which costs almost the same. (if you were to buy WRR)
BTW you can wait for new crf450 Rally coming soon from honda 
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Well, I dunno if my dealer was right to recommend me a 200kg lump when I asked about a 130kg trail bike.
Especially as I still have the dust in my hair from Russia on a 200kg machine, and he was sat on his arse in a computer chair.
The KTM 690 is certainly an option, but it's not just me on this expedition, If I were going alone I would be more seriously considering the KTM. My sidekick is Kyla; a a 130lb 21 year old female, who although just manhadled a F8GS around Eastern Europe, I think would struggle when the roads get reeeaally bad. I worry the extra 20kg on top of the 900+mm seat heights would cause problems.
Now a Honda CRF450 would be an amaaaaazing prospect. But I worry it will be just like the Yamaha WR450Rally, or the KTM450 Rally or any of the other 400+ Rally bikes that already exist for the public.
All I want is a WR450R or CRF450L...
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Ehm, the kato is 310 pounds dry. The WRR is 295 wet. Bit of a difference.
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No kidding. The main reason there is no 100kg 500cc long service interval offroad weapon. No other reason as a large part of the global market has nowhere to ride them.
I'll sell you mine with all the bells and whistles (overland ready) for a good price if you can wait until next year.
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completely different animal and way lower spec. And with that rational there is no point getting anything smaller than a 650.
The honda weighs 330 pound. Not even close to the mark.
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I think I have to agree with you. Every extra lb in the machine is a lb you will wish you never had when you leave. That goes for kit, bike and belly fat!
Weight is actually the main reason I am considering 250's. I am not convinced by the power or it's merits on tarmac at all, although I am sure it's possible. But I just can't ignore 130kg wet weight. That's the holy grail of overland travel in the developing world.
Hmmm Nect year?... Can you bring it over next week?
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Hmmm Nect year?... Can you bring it over next week?
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Sorry mate, but I'll drive it up your driveway after I ripsnort along the dirt tracks of Africa on it first. After that I'm done with adv riding and I'll be possibly getting a 100kg 500cc snorter and put up with the once a year piston change. Maybe once every 2 years.
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All I want is a WR450R or CRF450L...
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You might have a long weight for either of those bikes unfortunately - Id be buying one too, as long as the motor is not too highly strung!
What is the price of the CCM 450 in the UK? I know they are expensive here in Canada ($12,000 + CAD)
At least with the WR250 you can easily put the Athena 290 kit in and give it a bit more pep
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