Having had my XT 600 Tenere stolen I am on the lookout for a replacement.

I have a BMW 1150rt as a European touring bike and need a dirty bike.
The bike will, be an everyday commuter in UK, and also ideal for small weekend greenlaning.
Twice a year it will see some extended hardships, laden with petrol and water in a desert with 2 hard cases and camera equipment in a top box. Time negates me actually going RTW at this stage, but ultimately the intended goal is RTW. For now its just 2weeks covering about 4000 miles. Preferably warm.

Specifically I am looking for an aircooled single, preferably kick start.
I will be adding HID lighting as My Stolen Tenere lighting was dangerous at best.

What are the practical differences between these two bikes?

The DR600 having kick only and a 21litre tank, and the Yamaha being a 23litre tank. The Yamaha's foibles I have come to know and understand, but apparently the Suzuki is a completely different beast, yet no one has explained why. What areas do I need to look out for?

I should point out that I loved my 1VJ Tenere passionately. But as an impressionably teenager I experienced the roar of a DR600 djebel and its left an indelible mark one me.
I also really like the Djebel handguard/small fly screen fairing.

Still waiting for the Insurance to kick out... but probably just enough to pick up one of the bikes on flea bay from Germany or Italy.

Ohhh and any pointers in how to go about getting a European bike registered in a Brit's name? for importation?


Many thanks G

To make things a bit more complicated: Have you looked at the Yam TT600R?

The stock Tank is tiny (about 12 liters I think), but there's an acerbis 20 liter tank available. Other than that it's a dead simple, realiable machine with a great engine for offroading (maybe not so great for passing and the autobahn - always depends on your style of course) and a pretty good suspension.

It's also easily remodded into a Super Moto

There's different versions of the TT around. Apart from the 'S' and the 'E' (of which I don't know much), there's the 'R' with Kickstart and beefy suspension and the 'RE' with a not-so-good suspension (say on a level with the XT600) and electric start.

It's also an easy mod to change the suspension elements of the 'RE' against those of the 'R' and get the best of both worlds

Anyway just a thought...

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The DR600, far as I know,
Get serious.

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Thanks for the responses.

These newer bikes are not designed to last, so I am reluctant to buy a new bike. buying a bulletproof bike then new rings piston and sleeve makes much more sense to me. and I'm upgrading the rear shock and front springs anyway, new or old, so that isnt a cost issue.

Simplicity and fixability is the key. Having fuel injection break down in turkana isnt going to help anyone. Having a bike that is simple and mechanical on the road between Lamu and Garissa is the key to success.
Tube tyres are not ideal, but are more manageable given a more diverse range of problems. Imagine changing a tubeless without high pressure air during a bout of malaria in 40 degree heat?

Africa hasnt changed, or at least where I'm going hasnt, so why its thought that a bike that has done it all and was great is suddenly no good is beyond me.

The tt600 is too expensive, and not what I am looking for, compression ratio too high servicing too frequent. etc.

So I'm specifically looking for comparisons between these two bikes. There are quite a few still around with low mileage actually 8 internationally currently available.

Keep it coming on these two bikes differences.

G

The TT600R and RE are not as high maintenance as you may think. Compression ratio 8.5 to 1. Service interval 10000km for oil change.20000 valve clearances. engine is basically XT with a higher spec of chassis parts and more alloy/stainless.

I did nearly 50,000 miles on an '86 DR600.

Pro's: easy to work on, simple, cheap.

Con's: spares might be hard to find now, kickstart only.

Problems: snapped a kickstart shaft - full engine strip to replace. The drive splines on the countershaft that drive the front sprocket wore away - full engine strip. All big singles will use oil to varying degrees if held at high rpm for extended periods.

Fuel economy was good (50mpg). Suspension was basic.

Personally, I'd go for a newer XT of some sort.

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You seem to know these bikes and that's a big plus.

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Hi there Ive owned an 86 DR600, a 1991 XT600 3AJ Tenere, and have also ridden many miles an XT600 1 VJ.

The DR is a great fun bike, but it's engine cannot compare with the XT, particularly off road. The accelerator pumped carb on the DR gives it a more fierce power delivery, and it wont find grip like the XT. It's kickstart only, and when it's hot it's a total pig to start, mix that with it's less user friendly engine for off road, and it can be hard work when the going gets a bit tricky.

The XT is also much more comfortable to ride for distance riding.

I always thought my DR would make a good fun super moto, it was much easier to wheelie than the XT! I loved my DR to bits, but I have to be honest and say that the Tenere was a more "complete" bike.

Having said all of that, my DR was unerringly reliable, and my XT broke my bank balance, ok, it wasnt the best Tenere out there, but......

I would say go for something newer, both bikes are getting on a bit, and problems are going to be raising thier heads soon. Just my opinion guys.

Pete