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Yam xtz 750 super tenere or Honda xlv750 AT?
Oh, don't you just love to read comparisons on "which bike"? ;-)
Anyway: My latest sweet itch is choosing between a 91 or 92 Yamaha XTZ 750 Super Tenere or a Honda XLV 750 Africa Twin 92 or 93 model.
The one I finally choose is going to be the bike I use when I for example tour Iceland with one of my kids riding pillion (my wife bringing the other kid on her F650 Funduro), no serious off-roading (obviously), some asphalt touring in Ireland and stuff, and maybe a trip to Morocco in a couple of years time.
Which one, which one? (No, not BMW this time - just one of the two brands mentioned.)
Take care out there!
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Ok so i'm no expert on either but being an XTZ660 rider I supprisingly would say go for the Africa Twin...
Biggest reason -Spares must be easier to get hold of, the XTZ750s are so few and far between that I would expect you to have to wait for all parts to be delivered at least theer are loads more ATs on the road...
Don't get me wrong I love MY XTZ660 but since you haven't offered that as a choice then AT - I we can change your mind the 660 is a great bike, ideal for one but no problems doing 2, easy to get parts and it's simple to work on... with all the characteristics of the other 2 in fairings and comfort.... think on it....
Ciao, Tony.
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Hi, I would go for the Africa Twin! In Norway there are many ATs, so the price are good. Easy to get parts for also.. but change the seat, its not that good on longer tripps..
Når skal du til Island?? Hadet gøy!
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Africa Twin for the above reasons plus build quality,reliabilty and the smooth v-twin engine.
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I see, I see. Good arguments for the AT so far. No, thumpers are out, Tony, but thanks anyway. I know several of you 660 owners are raving about your bikes, and probably for good reasons. I choose twin for comfort - a smoother ride, also according to mcdarbyfeast - although I know the Thumperistas might prove me wrong. Parts availability seems like a good point, of course.
Right. I'll wait for others who might have a comment on the issue before deciding, but it seems like the AT takes it all.
Yngve: Jeg reiser til Island først neste år. Kona må ta lappen og kjøre seg inn på Funduroen i år. Hvor holder du til i verden?
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hello
I wouldn't go near an xtz750, all Ive heard about them is bad news, I don't know anyone who Ive asked about them to reccommend one. I am also looking for a simular bike, AT or BMWGS series, I ruled out the yamaha due to build quality etc.. however they are considerably cheaper and you would get parts within 2 days anywhere in europe but the AT is good and is my first choice with BMW coming in second only because they need a bit more looking after.
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HANDS DOWN ITS GOT TO BE THE YAMAHAs OR HONDAs
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hello
I wouldn't go near an xtz750, all Ive heard about them is bad news, I don't know anyone who Ive asked about them to reccommend one. I am also looking for a simular bike, AT or BMWGS series, I ruled out the yamaha due to build quality etc.. however they are considerably cheaper and you would get parts within 2 days anywhere in europe but the AT is good and is my first choice with BMW coming in second only because they need a bit more looking after.
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you are wrong , xtz 750 super T and the HONDA AFRICA TWIN are two of the best bikes ever made . I have a 1989 model first edition and it has never let me down , if you maintain any motorbike they will run and run and run .Stay away from BMWs you only have to watch LONGWAYDOWN , they were only two or three weeks into their trip and 2 of their BRAND NEW  BMWs broke down in Africa , also BMWs are well over priced you are paying the fat cats at BMW just for the name , so if you want to throw your money at them more fool you ......All BMWs bike problems are coming to light now so beware . The new TENEREs ARE FAR BETTER THAN ANY NEW BMWs
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coasttocoast,
Ever heard the expression "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"
This is totally  but it's a very old thread anyway
Go back and watch "The long Way Down" again. The parts that broke were the aftermarket Ohlins shocks that they fitted not the original BMW parts. I have a 1200GS which has taken me all over the world without any major problems and after 120,000km I'm very happy with it.
Also as for being overpriced, In Australia at least the price of the 1200gs is comparable with the new Super Tenere, and the XT660z Tenere is more expensive than the BMW G650gs
By the way I also own a '83 600 Tenere 34L and a 660z Tenere, they have there faults too, but I still love all three bikes. You don't say if you've owned or do own a BMW??
I'm not looking for a fight, but I'm just sick of people BMW bashing (or any make) without good cause or reason.
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Quote:
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This is totally but it's a very old thread anyway
Go back and watch "The long Way Down" again. The parts that broke were the aftermarket Ohlins shocks that they fitted not the original BMW parts. I have a 1200GS which has taken me all over the world without any major problems and after 120,000km I'm very happy with it.
Also as for being overpriced, In Australia at least the price of the 1200gs is comparable with the new Super Tenere, and the XT660z Tenere is more expensive than the BMW G650gs
By the way I also own a '83 600 Tenere 34L and a 660z Tenere, they have there faults too, but I still love all three bikes. You don't say if you've owned or do own a BMW??
I'm not looking for a fight, but I'm just sick of people BMW bashing (or any make) without good cause or reason.
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Well said Chrispy; that's a reality check on the thread, which was going well up to post no 30.
Yes, it is an old thread, but still relevant - here in the UK the price of ATs has risen quite a bit, and they are as much in demand as they ever have been. I believe the XTZ 750 is a much rarer beast here nowadays (judging by the numbers of "for sale" advertisements) - perhaps they have all been thrashed to death or maybe their owners are hanging on to them?
Funnily enough, no one seems to post much information in the HUBB about the new version of the ST (but it has received some very good reports in the biking press in the UK). Nor do I think it would be worth bringing such newer models of bikes into this kind of comparison thread - it would be a case of comparing apples with bananas (or something like that anyway!!)
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Hello,
Met the brothers orr in Africa who rode down on XTZ 750's, the frame did not last... Drop them an email for some great stories.
http://www.brothersorr.com/transafrica/home/home.htm
Then again i drove a NX650 down, and errrhhh the frame did crack but only the rear subframe.. so thats ok.
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Here in Italy absolutely no problem for XTZ 750 spares ..it had its problems (rectifier) like also Africa Twins (Fuel pump) AT's are reputed as more sturdy and more stable on road , but is 25% less powerful than XTZ so the difference it's relative ... both needs serious streghtening work for raid/offroad use...but XTZ is more protected (better bashplate)
Since here the used AT are really overpriced (even the double of an XTZ for same conditions) I would surely go for a XTZ.
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The AT is a more expensive bike though.
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Hello
Be aware that there was a model shift for the AT between 92 and 93. From rd04 to rd07 there is quite a few differences, worth taking in consideration. Send me an mail if you have questions, email in my profile.
One last important notice!!
There have been some cases of broken frame on the first year of rd07 (93)in germany.
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Even I ride later model of XTZ 660, dont think much, choose Africa Twin. It is true that AT is slightly underpowered for V-twin 750 ccm engine, but smooth runing and reasonale torque make it better option that revvy XTZ 750, which I owned previously. XTZ 750 has lots of power but also take a lot of fuel, and my overall impresions are that AT offers more.
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