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well, thanks for the suggestions. "the most power" is not exactly what i was particularly looking for, but approach makes a good sense.
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well, thanks for the suggestions. "the most power" is not exactly what i was particularly looking for, but approach makes a good sense.
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Well you do what you think is best for your engine, just dont crank alot, prime up carb and hope it starts on first turn with good oilflow, then various rpm and your good The bad part is for my understanding that you already have done alot of cranking looking for oilflow...
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Well you do what you think is best for your engine, just dont crank alot, prime up carb and hope it starts on first turn with good oilflow, then various rpm and your good The bad part is for my understanding that you already have done alot of cranking looking for oilflow...
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you're right, there was some pre-run cranking.
at least, everything inside was well soaked into the oil, which hopefully could had survived before the first run...
had first short ride today and despite of not yet tuned carbs (pilot and maybe primary as well needed some attention from the last time), after all this time it felt so nice...
generally, i'm following your suggestions. was varying throttle without hesitations, but still didn't went above the third gear this time.
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you're right, there was some pre-run cranking.
at least, everything inside was well soaked into the oil, which hopefully could had survived before the first run...
had first short ride today and despite of not yet tuned carbs (pilot and maybe primary as well needed some attention from the last time), after all this time it felt so nice...
generally, i'm following your suggestions. was varying throttle without hesitations, but still didn't went above the third gear this time.
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Good to hear you are on the road again, what break in oil are you using? Keep it up to 70% load in beginning, remember wrong fule/airmix is not good either for breakin in and remember dont leave on idling and low rpm above 1500 is good.
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Good to hear you are on the road again, what break in oil are you using? Keep it up to 70% load in beginning, remember wrong fule/airmix is not good either for breakin in and remember dont leave on idling and low rpm above 1500 is good.
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oil is 10w40 semi by rheinol.
mixture must be bit richer than normal, will address this issue soon.
as advised, idling time is minimal.
by the way, does this engine need checking the torque/retightening of head bolts after some time?
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oil is 10w40 semi by rheinol.
mixture must be bit richer than normal, will address this issue soon.
as advised, idling time is minimal.
by the way, does this engine need checking the torque/retightening of head bolts after some time?
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Ok, its not recomended using semi or synthetic oil, use break in oil! No its ok with headbolts torque.
Break-in oil is specifically formulated to seal the piston rings against the cylinder wall for maximum engine compression and power. Break-in oils use conventional base oils without friction-modifier additives to allow controlled wear between the rings and cylinder wall.
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Ok, its not recomended using semi or synthetic oil, use break in oil! No its ok with headbolts torque.
Break-in oil is specifically formulated to seal the piston rings against the cylinder wall for maximum engine compression and power. Break-in oils use conventional base oils without friction-modifier additives to allow controlled wear between the rings and cylinder wall.
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well, that's another piece of knowledge getting by hard way.
tried some local search, for now found one option for car engines.
for now about 20km is done. any suggestions what could be done in the given situation?
meanwhile, fingers are crossed that no big trouble will take a place..
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well, that's another piece of knowledge getting by hard way.
tried some local search, for now found one option for car engines.
for now about 20km is done. any suggestions what could be done in the given situation?
meanwhile, fingers are crossed that no big trouble will take a place..
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I dont know about the cylinder job, is it properly done with machine honing? If not it doesnt matter, you are in a spot now beyond changing oil to repair seating and maybe glazing the cylinder wall. Ride and enjoy Ride for 20km and do a compression test you will know more. Dont forget to change oil and filter less than 150km.
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I dont know about the cylinder job, is it properly done with machine honing? If not it doesnt matter, you are in a spot now beyond changing oil to repair seating and maybe glazing the cylinder wall. Ride and enjoy Ride for 20km and do a compression test you will know more. Dont forget to change oil and filter less than 150km.
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thanks for infos.
cylinder has some weird story behind (together with some other piston, wrote about it earlier).
to put it shortly, i was surprised by receiving oversized cylinder.
then it was checked and measured by someone experienced, who's approved the surface condition and dimensions. and according to him, it was machine honed just recently.
ok, let's see the results of compression test.
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ok, it took me a while to get some free time. was unable to find comp.gauge with compatible thread so had to craft it.
so far cold measurement only. slightly above 8 bars.
hopefully it could reach 9 (minimum value, according to manual) when hot.
but for now some other problem appears in the primary carb.
slide valve seems worn and adjacent areas inside the carb body as well. besides the not smooth throttle response guess this makes complicated to set mixture right.
as a temporary solution thinking about getting another slider but generally seems like new body is needed.
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are you opening the throttle fully when doing the compression test?
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are you opening the throttle fully when doing the compression test?
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carbs were off for adjustments, hence the cold measurement.
maybe will manage to do it on the hot engine as well next week.
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yes, 8 is a bit on the low side, but dont know how accurate your tester is, I would at this point ride it and watch out for smoke
dont baby it when running in,
don tkeep it idling, ride on and giving it some throtlle every now and then is best
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yes, 8 is a bit on the low side, but dont know how accurate your tester is, I would at this point ride it and watch out for smoke
dont baby it when running in,
don tkeep it idling, ride on and giving it some throtlle every now and then is best
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thanks, basically that's what i do for now.
beside the carb-related issues, otherwise the engine feels and sounds pretty well. ok, i know that i could be somehow subjective as well, after all this period of deprivation. time will tell...
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carb situation for xts is getting difficult, not many used good sets around, quite a few people adapting twin CV carbs cinese copies from the Raptor quad... needs some fabrication though
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