Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Technical, Bike forums > Yamaha Tech
Yamaha Tech Originally the Yamaha XT600 Tech Forum, due to demand it now includes all Yamaha's technical / mechanical / repair / preparation questions.
Photo by Andy Miller, UK, Taking a rest, Jokulsarlon, Iceland

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Andy Miller, UK,
Taking a rest,
Jokulsarlon, Iceland



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 30 Jun 2009
G600's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 235
Carb tip – TT600RE – lean (flat) spot gone.

Hi all, a small teck tip..

The bike is a 2005 TT600RE.

It had a flat (lean) spot in the power band just before the second carburetor opened. Very annoying.

The solution turned out to be simple, I made the second carburetor open a little sooner.

I adjusted the screw (see pic) so that the gap (see the other pic) increased from 8.1mm to 9.1mm. This small adjustment was all it took, now the flat spot (lean spot) is not noticeable .





__________________
----------
Yamaha XT600E '01, Honda XR400 '03, Yamaha XT550 '83
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 30 Jun 2009
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Denmark
Posts: 1,417
I fail to see how that can richen up the mixture.

Please tell me.

If its a tad lean in the middle area, you could/should raise the needle(s) a notch, og half a notch with shims.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 1 Jul 2009
wolfzero's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: uk
Posts: 434
the screw opens up the secondary throttle early allowing fuel from the secondary carb to enter the engine its probably just enough to get rid of the flat spot on your bike the ydis carb set up is designed to keep those flat spots from happening its a bit like variable valve timing the engine needs different volumes of fuel/air mixture through the rev range but its not a linear curve so the two part carb is a way around that problem.
__________________
XT 630 SUPERMOTO

GSXR750L KMX200

RF900 & GSX400X Impulse Projects
3.9 V8 Rangerover
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 1 Jul 2009
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Denmark
Posts: 1,417
But, it also opens up for more air, right? Dont know the TT, i have a XT but they seem pretty simular.

So unless the secondary carb is richer mixed, I cant see the logic, or atleast undestand it

But if it works, it works =)

Im nut trying to be "out there" with a whip, just trying to understand.

Which year is yours?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 1 Jul 2009
wolfzero's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: uk
Posts: 434
the xt and tt use the ydis carb, it will be slightly richer as the 2nd carb butterfly valve will only just be open but as the secondary carb is a cv carb the vacuum will have lifted the diaphram operated slide raising the needle slightly too thus giving a richer mixture

kinda irrelevant to me though as i have junked the yam carb and fitted a pair of 32mm mikuni's but i have done some head work and fitted a high comp 3mm oversize piston which is more than the ydis carb is designed to cope with
__________________
XT 630 SUPERMOTO

GSXR750L KMX200

RF900 & GSX400X Impulse Projects
3.9 V8 Rangerover
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 5 Jul 2009
G600's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 235
Dav Jens

The bike is a 2005 TT600RE. I am told it has the exact same engine as the 1990-1995 XT600E but with bigger carburetors.

I was not trying to richen up the mixture in the entire middle range. There was an annoying small “flat spot” or a small hesitation in the powerband just before the second carburetor opened (I think).

There is no great science behind this adjustment. It was just a test that worked out. I read some posts were an Australian guy talked about this adjustment (advancing the opening of the second carburetor) and decided to give it a try.
__________________
----------
Yamaha XT600E '01, Honda XR400 '03, Yamaha XT550 '83
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 28 Aug 2009
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Dorset UK
Posts: 395
Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfzero View Post
the xt and tt use the ydis carb, it will be slightly richer as the 2nd carb butterfly valve will only just be open but as the secondary carb is a cv carb the vacuum will have lifted the diaphram operated slide raising the needle slightly too thus giving a richer mixture

kinda irrelevant to me though as i have junked the yam carb and fitted a pair of 32mm mikuni's but i have done some head work and fitted a high comp 3mm oversize piston which is more than the ydis carb is designed to cope with
Wolfy... any chance of some data & photo's for you 32mm carb replacement mod's please
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Transalp sitting still for 2 months, carb weak spot, any ideas for cleaning? ta-all-the-way Honda Tech 10 23 Feb 2009 14:14
flat spot phil vale Yamaha Tech 0 16 Jun 2008 11:55
flat spot bigbrummer Yamaha Tech 5 3 Sep 2005 02:32
Flat spot skip Suzuki Tech 1 25 Feb 2004 01:54

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

  • Virginia: April 24-27 2025
  • Queensland is back! May 2-4 2025
  • Germany Summer: May 29-June 1 2025
  • CanWest: July 10-13 2025
  • Switzerland: Date TBC
  • Ecuador: Date TBC
  • Romania: Date TBC
  • Austria: Sept. 11-14
  • California: September 18-21
  • France: September 19-21 2025
  • Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2 2025

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 17:36.