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Have I made a big mistake???
I have recently completed another XT600 engine re-build.

It's an early kicker engine with decompressor.
I thought I'd do a 'special' as I've built a few 'standard' engines without problems.

A basic run down of the spec is:-

Standard bottom end with Carrillo rod
Standard bore cylinder
High compression piston
Gas flowed head

All this may seem OK - but I think there might be a small conflict.
High compression piston + decomression lever = bent valve

Has anyone done this before?
I am dreading stripping it down as the valves were flowed aswell and won't be cheap to replace.
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Valve timing?
Double check the valve timing, rotate the crank with a socket through the central hole in the clutch cover, then sight through the 12mm plugged hole to see the crank timing marks, the piston TDC is the last mark as you rotate anti clockwise, which you can confirm with a probe down the plug hole resting on the piston. With the tappet covers off, check that, for both TDC positions that the tappets have clearance, ie the valves are closed. The cam might be a tooth out with respect to the crank.
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That was the first thing I did - then did again to make sure I didn't miss anything the first time.

I'll post some pics of the parts - give me your opinions.
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OK here goes......




This is the Carrillo rod - no worries about damaging that.





This is the high compression piston - check the RAISED crown (this is what I think may have hit the valve)





Normal head and ported head - can you tell which is which???





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Hi topped piston vs decompression lever
OK, try this, it should work... smear the piston valve clearances with plasticene, coat the valve faces with oil, crank the motor, with the kick starter through a cycle, measure the exhaust valve imprint depth. Then calculate how much you need to machine the piston crown. Or use a thicker head gasket made of copper and lose some compression. Or not use the auto compression lever, use the electric strarter only. You might be able to adjust the decomp cam to open the valves just off the seats enough to enable starting but without touching the piston at TDC. Did you hear a "bang bang bang" as the valves touched the crown when cranking?
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Hard to tell if there is a noise when you are kicking the life of of the bike.
There's fuel and a spark but there is a lack of compression compared to normal.

I guess this buld error was just an oversight on my part - or getting over confident

I'll be doing a stripdown soon so more info to come.
I'll be re-building without the de-comressor this time.
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