Of course I would like to have it, Pera! Thanks so much, I PM you right now!

Thanks Jens, I actually got the English manual from that site (did I say I come from Andalucia, as Pera?)
I've got the vey same fender extension and riding all year round (aka freezing for 6 months with inadequate gear! ), I thought it'd be good against (more) salt getting to the engine. I may do it, as you say (very good idea, indeed), but I would prefer to start with solving (if possible) the issue/origin of the overheating.

So, coming back to the books, any other idea. I know a (very little) bit about car engines, but not about motorbikes'. Do you recommend any general book about motorcycle mechanics, good for an XT?

Item number: 280722589724

or google, Clymer workshop manual for Yamaha XT600 and TT600

You might find this of interest, it may not be for you model/year but you will find little difference between the models. Alternatively, keep a look out for a more specific one, as they do come up on a fairly regular basis.

Socks

I rode 80km yesterday, around 15 degrees outside, running with 15/47 sprockets at around 80km/h @ 3500rpm. My oil got up to around 95 degrees.

That doesnt seem far away from yours, I really dont think theres anything wrong with yours.

Have you tried to check the things I mentioned in my first post?

I just ordered it, alongside with the one in German (it should help to refresh my very rusty German). Thx, Socks

Jens,, I have missed the Workshop Manual, it is great. I am going to print it all (my old PC cannot handle it well!). So, it won't be because of lack of guidance. (I think I have the valves' wrench somewhere).

And sorry, I just forgot to check the bike to answer your questions. So, here I come a little late...

Rear sprocket (looks like 45 teeth)


Front sprocket (?). Cannot see any mark with number of teeth, but it should be the same as stock. I ruined the chain in Southern France and got a chain kit with reference 1051434/5 (according to the bill). Seems to be D.I.D. make (?).

Rear tyre/rim (pls perceive how the current "lube obsession" reaches the tyre following the (Southern) French connection! bad joke about old mafia films... )





Front tyre/rim





Carburetor. Does it look stock?



Jets. No idea, I haven't asked the previous owner "jet" (lives in Zurich). Sorry for soooo bad jokes, I ate a poisoned salad and little blood is reaching my brain b/c lack of fluids (aka creating strong ties of allegiance with toilet).

Thus, the thing is that the bike was running great and now runs poorly. So, after the shock with the dealer, I am getting ready to get hands on it myself. So, I think the first tasks should be:

- Valves adjustment (most probable cause)
- Carburetor cleaning
- Ignition timing

Is that right? I crossfingers not to mess it all!!!!

Thats a stock carb yes.

You cant adjust the ignition, so thats sorted for ya right there.

The timing can be off, if the camchain skipped a tooth, but thats very very rare. That would be the last thing to check, cause when it seldom happens, valves and such is often destroyed, and the engine would sound very bad, if it even could run.

Have you cheked oillevel yet? You need to check it when its warm.

Hi estebanc,
I don't realy wish to sound critical BUT, be careful on those left hand bends. Why, coz the amount of oil (any) on that rear tyre is just not correct.
I can see that you lean more when taking a right hand bend,and your left lean is not as great, maybe because of the slippage you get when doing so (left).
Of course it could be that you always do a round trip,clockwise.

Take care out there

Socks

I joined Swiss Touring Club again. But I could only get an appointment for a “technical control” for next 9th September, so no diagnose by now!

Jens, oil was just changed by the Yamaha dealer ($$$), so level has to be OK now. As you say, no camshaft slipping, it is not that bad. By the way, I found that a “stromboscopic lamp” (timing lamp) in Louis.de costs 40 € (I wouldn't expect be available that “cheap”). Several years ago I took a course on car mechanics and after reassembling the engine we had to fine tune it again with it. Your ear/feeling works, but that thing is just amazingly far better!

Well, I’m going to order a dynamometric socket wrench (b/c I want to have 1) and feeler gauges and I will check if there are gaskets/rings to replace when I try the valves adjustment. Anything else? I'm convinced that's the reason.

SOCKS, are you meaning I am a BATH or bad rider??? Just because I mentioned the toilet? That’s pretty unfair, man… NOOOO, I’m kidding: I am here to learn, so please feel totally free to point out anything (not that I pick my nose, pls), I won’t feel it as you criticise me, but help me. Thanks for your comments. Of course I am not Valentino! I did put all that much lube before parking the bike for a year. Actually, when I said “brakes definitely need replacement” was after a left corner a little too fast (limited skills, you know) touching slightly the rear brake and it felt like nothing but slipping! I thought brake pads were just worn (as Yamaha dealer warned me; new discs for MOT as well, damn expensive!) and probably tyres over inflated (30 y/o borrowed pump and I feel I pushed too much air inside the tubes!). As leaning may more imply good revving, I just don't do it now.

Well, what can I say, you are totally right, I didn’t notice the lube was getting that high, not only the profile. I’ll have to clean the rear tyre. It is not that every time I see oil or wet leafs on a corner I lean as much as I can over them… I enjoy motorcycling, not bobsleigh!!!

No idea about why the 5th gear sounds like brushing when I accelerate, but no noise at all when I release the gas?

Don´t you know the clasical book Arias Paz for cars? There is an Arias Paz for bikes. I send it to your e-mail.

PS: I´m going tu upload it to anywebsite, it´s about 160 Mb and I can´t send it via e-mail nor attach to a mesage

Of course I know the one about cars, it is the main classical in Spanish! Sure, please, send me the link! Thank you, Pera!

Hi,

I found (among all the unidentifiable array of bolts/nuts/tools/spacers I got alongside with the bike) this tool, which certainly resembles to the valve adjusting tool in the Workshop manual (to my optimistic eyes at least).






Does anyone know it? Is it "same same but different" or does it (would it) work? Any other possible usage (bottle opener already found it by myself)?

Thanks (again)

Esteban

I just use some pliers of some sort to hold the little adjustertap while locking down the nut.

I think that wrench is to tighten the spokes????!!!

As far as the new front and rear disc brake rotors, I've made a thread about this a few months ago.

Jens has bought a front and back rear discs for his XT600E although we went for the ones from S3performance.

I bought my front disc brake rotor for 45USD shipped to my door...
It arrived in less than two weeks.


As far as the rest of the things you posted I just am not in the condition to help out right now..


Vando

Thanks, Vando.

May I tell you who much I was asked for the original Yamaha front disc? Put on your helmet on and hold tight the arms of your chair, man: 327 CHF (=290€). Wow, WTF, that's twisty road! Add the bolts (why, they were not good any more??? I am ignorant, please illustrate me): 32.40 CHF (28.5€). Damn it, they were made with the same titanium used for the latest NASA spaceship! And also rear, bolts and all brake pads, plus labor! I did not dare to ask about valves adjustment, I would have to sell my flesh in the red light district every night!!!

I cannot pay that, I'd rather walk! (as mein Führer on a BMW). It is not just money, it's against my principles!

I call the MOT here: how thick does the disc brake rotor have to be? "We look at the side, if there is nothing written, we call the Yamaha dealer..." Damn it, I found nothing written, should I then call the dealer who told me I had to changed them to pass the MOT?????? In France (where there is no MOT for motorbikes) I eas told they were totally right for local standards, as I also find myself!

Guys, thank you, you and Jens make a great XT experts team! But I won't go for those Aussie discs in here, MOT is really demanding (I know it because of an old Renault 4!). I'll go for something more conventional.

It'd be great to make a list of good suppliers of spares for XTs, don't you think?

Ebay is great for thoose things. You can get a regular EBC disc for less than 100euro. I live in Denmark, so i often shop on the german ebay (.de) Just type in xt 600 bremsscheibe or se if something simular is availible on .co.uk og .com (or what you prefer)

I will do so. The S3Performance were 79 AUD anyway (strong AUD now).


Rode 60 kms yesterday at 65 km/h, outside temperature ca. 28-30ºC and the oil got to 118ºC (it was cooling down when I took the picture). The bike felt very bad.



Good news is that I got a "box" (parking place with door) to work on the bike lent at no cost. I wrote today to HUBB Geneva community to see if anyone wants to join to help/teach/learn/get dirty hands... Have to start to shop!