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If you descide to dive into the engine internals yourself, you will need a flywheel puller to remove flywheel, give me a shout, I'm in Staines area and have one you can use.
Also if it's like similar bikes I have had with same problem, try putting bike in 1st gear, clutch in and push it backwards let the clutch out, you should hear the 'whirr' of the starter gears, if your lucky it might also nudge the starter into activity (temperarily).
Sorry I can't recomend any good mechanics in Staines area, they all seem to be closing down !
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A flywheel puller!
Thanks Brian
I'll try the trick with the 1st gear, and if that doesn't work then I may well appreciate the use of a flywheel puller.
I don't think I've sent my newbie-required 8 posts, so can't PM you my contact details. However if you don't mind a strange woman knowing either you're email address or phone number, then you're more than welcome to drop me a PM and I'll be in touch.
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Sticky starter motor, eh... tried giving a couple of gentle taps with a soft mallet/hammer with a bit of wood inbetween? Worth a try!
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31 Aug 2008
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Below is link to the yamaha service manual at xt225.com:-
XT225 Service Manual
Pages 4-13 (manual page) or 144 (adobe acrobat page) are where the flywheel removal part starts. Good luck and let me know what you find.
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Hello. By the sounds of it I had exactly the same trouble with my 1990 xt600e. I checked for loose wires, dead battery, push starting and I tried tapping the starter (as it had played up befor, and tapping the starter is a good little trick!). In the end I gave up and took the bike into the garage. Now please dont hit me....I cant tell you what was wrong with the bike as I went away for a couple of weeks, and my mate picked up the bike and never bloody asked!!! Argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But it only cost £30 to get it fixed which means it took less then an hour and no new parts were added. So basacily what Im saying is dont fret!!! If your like me and not too sound when it comes to pulling bits apart, pop it into a garage and hopefully it will just be the same problem as mine. Sorry, maby a useless reply, but I always find it good to know if someones had the same trouble as me, and that its turned out to be a mole hill rather then a mountain!!!!!
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So far, so good...
Thanks Yoashma, I'm *really* hoping that it is something quite simple to fix, because when it comes to pulling bits apart - well... I already go started! On Saturday, I wheeled my Serow into the living room (I love the patio door to my flat) and cracked open my toolkit.
Big thanks to Brian for the loan of his rotor puller, as I wouldn't have acheived anything without it. In fact for a while, I wasn't sure I was going to achieve anything with it! It took two of us, and a few cups of tea, to remove the rotor - we took it in turns and pulled and pulled, and when the two of us were pulling the rotor and the rotor puller in opposite directions, it eventually flew out (duck!!!)
Robin - you were right, it is starter clutch, and from the looks of it it's seriously 'kaput'. The starter clutch attaches to the rotor which a number of what used to be allen bolts. ...and there's no way it was our brute force that destroyed them.
So, onto ordering some replacements I guess. Just wanted to update you on the story so far, to thank you for your encouragement and help, and to say keep the advice coming. Even though I've only succeeded in taking my bike apart so far, it's definately a step in the right direction (for both me and the bike)
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Thanks for the update, sorry to hear its a bit serious. I have dug out a link to a parts listing below:-
http://www.angelfire.com/sports/sero...rterClutch.HTM
It looks like you may need some or all of part number 4H7-15580-10-00 'STARTER CLUTCH OUTER ASSY'. I have found in the past Fowlers Yamaha in Bristol quite good for genuine serow parts, their parts dept number is 0117 977 0466 . Again keep us updated, also let me know the part cost as my serow that my son uses may be getting this problem soon!! so I might be following in your footsteps. Also remember to order a new gasket for that casing.
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