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I’ll be interested in how it rides - in particular the fuelling. If they get that right I’d definitely consider it.

Until 3 days ago i had the XT660z (RSA) and the XT1200z (UK). I love the 660. But in 3 years I just couldn’t bond with the 1200 - the fuelling was just not right, absolutely ruined the bike for me. Now replaced with an 800 Tiger.


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Ok..first time i ever hear about changing bike because fuelling is not right.. Hope you have more sucsess fuelling the Tiger
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Ok..first time i ever hear about changing bike because fuelling is not right.. Hope you have more sucsess fuelling the Tiger

Cheers. Please to report the Tiger fuelling is flawless so yes, very happy with the switch.

I talked to the dealer, improved it from bad to adequate with a Power Commander (especially on closed loop), but it was never right. May be just a big twin thing, although no issues in 8 years with the V-Strom 1000 I had before. Pitching into a tight alpine hairpin, opening the throttle and getting a slightly stop/go, feels like the chokes on, fluffy response just didn’t work for me, or my confidence. Judging by the S10 forum I was not alone.


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Cheers. Please to report the Tiger fuelling is flawless so yes, very happy with the switch.

I talked to the dealer, improved it from bad to adequate with a Power Commander (especially on closed loop), but it was never right. May be just a big twin thing, although no issues in 8 years with the V-Strom 1000 I had before. Pitching into a tight alpine hairpin, opening the throttle and getting a slightly stop/go, feels like the chokes on, fluffy response just didn’t work for me, or my confidence. Judging by the S10 forum I was not alone.


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Well i still didnt understand what you are struggling with, didnt you find the cap fast enough for pit stop?
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Ok..first time i ever hear about changing bike because fuelling is not right.. Hope you have more sucsess fuelling the Tiger
Many early versions of various F.I. bikes have had fueling problems. Early Vstroms (I owned an '02 DL1000), my former '07 Tiger 1050 and many test bikes I rode through the magazine. It's hard to ride smooth with a sudden JERK of power going from OFF throttle to ON. Especially true if leaned way over at the edge of traction.

The Tiger 1050 was most disappointing for me. But all current 800's I've ridden have had good fueling, so Triumph fixed the problem. Rode the big Tiger Explorer and it was smooth as well.

BMW GS's too have struggled with this very jerky ON/OFF fueling for years. And as mentioned above, this is especially irritating riding steep Alpine hair pin switch type corners ... even worse when Two Up. Lots of bumping of helmets as the power re-engages suddenly with a JERK.

This is very common.

Many spend a lot of time and money to smooth out this jerky transition from OFF throttle to ON throttle. Power commanders and other ECU hacks can help a lot, as can a simple throttle cable adjustment or careful syncing of throttle bodies.

But IMO this is something that the OEM should solve before bringing the bike to the market for sale.

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Well i understand, was thinking problem was getting fuel to the gastank. Like the KTM have fuel cap in the back of the seat.
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Oh, sorry, I mis understood your earlier posts.
BMW also have some bikes with fuel tank at back of bike.
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75 hp , v twin , under 200kg and a price tag of 10k euros! (has the same engine as the mt-07)

they just announced it today!
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You mean parallel-twin?

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Look at the announcement on ADVPulse. It's reported to be 452 pounds wet with a wheelbase 2" longer than the Super Tenere. It won't be released to the US until Fall 2020, EU 2019. I hope we get a better report from KTM tomorrow.
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