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They look very smart Ted. I have a pair of Oxford Sports panniers which I'll try and fit first, although I'm not sure about the width fitting over the rack I'm going to get. All being well, the money saved can go on a bash plate or Garmin satnav!
Where did you buy those panniers? They look quite deep. How do they compare for size against a pair of Oxford Sports panniers? Final question; do you use any sort of heatshield? I have a Remus can on mine, as well as the stainless headers.  |
I don't know how they compare as I havnt used the Oxfords. These cortech ones are brill. I was lucky that an American girl brought them to BSAS for me after my Metal mules got turned into scrap metal in a crash..
I had the bent metal mule pannier frames to act as a heat shield although you can easily make or buy some cheap pannier rails...
I really do urge you to go soft .... The weight and size of hard boxes is a nightmare and when/if you crash or even fall, they often bend and the brackets snap etc.. With softbags, the WORST that will happen is a rip or tear which is SOOOO easy to fix yourself.
The wieght saving is brilliant too making your XT handle much better offroad and when you drop the bike, the soft bags just absorb the crash and save the bodywork ! BONUS
Finding someone who can sow is about 1000000x easier than someone who can weld aluminium !!
As for security, Pacsafe work if you're paranoid but I would just have a lockable topbox for any valuables and just use the side bags for clothes, books, etc etc ! But I have never had anyone try and get into my bags anyway...
Before !!! £900 Aluminium luggage
After a crash !!
I admit this was a high speed crash on sand/gravel but the bust luggage made the trip a nightmare until I could replace it !!
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Cheers fella's. I hope there were no long term side effects of that little off Ted?! I can't see how Metalmule can justify their prices. The current price for that setup is circa £1200! My estimated cost is around £450 all in, with soft bags obviously, pannier rack and a half decent top box or pacsafe type soft bag on top.
The spending just keeps on going... 
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Cheers fella's. I hope there were no long term side effects of that little off Ted?! I can't see how Metalmule can justify their prices. The current price for that setup is circa £1200! My estimated cost is around £450 all in, with soft bags obviously, pannier rack and a half decent top box or pacsafe type soft bag on top.
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Naaah Im fine.. .I bounce well 
The guys at MM are very helpful, friendly and genuine travellers. Their stuff is very well made but I think its more suited to glossy magazines than the wilds of the world. It's too complicated and difficult to repair.
Can they justify their prices ??? Well, as long as Mr BMW 1200GS keeps buying their gear at those prices to show off at the local pub, why would you charge less ??? Profit isnt a dirty word when you're trying to put bread on the table.
As for your budget....
Softbags = £150 (MAX)
Racks = £100 (TT do racks for XT for £220 I think)
Top box and carrier= £50 (Ebay)
Pacsafes = £60 for 2
You can EASILY do all this for £450 or less.
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I don't know how they compare as I havnt used the Oxfords. These cortech ones are brill. I was lucky that an American girl brought them to BSAS for me after my Metal mules got turned into scrap metal in a crash..
I had the bent metal mule pannier frames to act as a heat shield although you can easily make or buy some cheap pannier rails...
I really do urge you to go soft .... The weight and size of hard boxes is a nightmare and when/if you crash or even fall, they often bend and the brackets snap etc.. With softbags, the WORST that will happen is a rip or tear which is SOOOO easy to fix yourself.
The wieght saving is brilliant too making your XT handle much better offroad and when you drop the bike, the soft bags just absorb the crash and save the bodywork ! BONUS
Finding someone who can sow is about 1000000x easier than someone who can weld aluminium !!
As for security, Pacsafe work if you're paranoid but I would just have a lockable topbox for any valuables and just use the side bags for clothes, books, etc etc ! But I have never had anyone try and get into my bags anyway...
Before !!! £900 Aluminium luggage
After a crash !!
I admit this was a high speed crash on sand/gravel but the bust luggage made the trip a nightmare until I could replace it !! |
looks like the hard cases saved the bike and probably teds neck. my opinon on hard or soft luggage just comes down to personal choice and which bike you intend on using.hard luggage on a 125 would be overkill.
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SEeing as this thread has been bumped I'll add the pictures of my Hepco and Becker rack fitted to my bike.
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Ok gents….as I'm not at all familiar with the 1VJ, would a rack from a 1VJ (rear top box style only) bolt up to a 1990-94 600E without mods to the plastic???
Yep, i know it's a long shot but you gotta ask
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I'm no expert on frames for the 600E, but I bought an official Yamaha rear rack for my 94 (3TB) - the only one they list for the entire XT range. I can tell you that it does not fit the 1990-94 3TB without modification - a piece has to be cut out of the tailpiece plastic on the left side, and the front right-hand bolt needs to be packed out with about 20mm worth of washers in order to fit. I suspect (i.e. wild guess) that it is designed for the later 4TP model.
Having said that, it is still firmly attached after 2-3 years and does the job. It's rusted badly, though, and I have repainted it twice.
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I'm no expert on frames for the 600E, but I bought an official Yamaha rear rack for my 94 (3TB) - the only one they list for the entire XT range. I can tell you that it does not fit the 1990-94 3TB without modification - a piece has to be cut out of the tailpiece plastic on the left side, and the front right-hand bolt needs to be packed out with about 20mm worth of washers in order to fit. I suspect (i.e. wild guess) that it is designed for the later 4TP model.
Having said that, it is still firmly attached after 2-3 years and does the job. It's rusted badly, though, and I have repainted it twice.
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Thanks mate i thought as much, have a  on me!
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Well, this is the rack i bought, (Hepco & Becker) it's claimed to be for a 1VJ but…..
As you can see it looks to be identical as the rack for my 91 600e (H & B photo) and even with postage will come in well under half the new price
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I had the bent metal mule pannier frames to act as a heat shield although you can easily make or buy some cheap pannier rails...
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I have been looking for pannier rails which would fit my bike , could you possibly point me in the right direction please.
Ps. I have a xt600 4pt 2003 with the factory top rack fitted already.
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Maybe look at hepco and becker mate
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Maybe look at hepco and becker mate
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£80 cheaper than the Toureatch and come with the top rack!
Hmmm?
Anyone know if these are any good? or as good as the Touratech?
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Cheers, they are expensive but ideal!
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