Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Technical, Bike forums > Yamaha Tech
Yamaha Tech Originally the Yamaha XT600 Tech Forum, due to demand it now includes all Yamaha's technical / mechanical / repair / preparation questions.
Photo by Alessio Corradini, on the Salar de Uyuni, Bolivia, of two locals

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Alessio Corradini,
on the Salar de Uyuni, Bolivia,
of two locals



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 7 Mar 2002
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: sunny England
Posts: 790
XT600E carb rubbers

ive got an xt600e and there is a small,thin rubber box connecting the carbs together,between the carbs and the engine.
this has a small split in it at the joint with the right hand carb.
what is this box?
what will happen if i dont fix it?
how do i fix it?
the bike runs fine at the moment, but this split can only get worse with time, so i want to get it sorted now before i get stranded somewhere.
any advice please?


------------------
dave
__________________
dave
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 7 Mar 2002
mmaarten's Avatar
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Thailand at the moment
Posts: 593
Hi Dave,

It sound like some kind of balancing-connection. It's often used to keep a smooth gas-flow.
With a "split" I guess you mean a crack or leak? This is serious! It will suck in false air, witch make's the engine run to lean (will run hot) but even more serious, the air that goes in is un-filtered!

So, if you can't replace it (if you are on the road), try to repair it or remove it and block the hole's.

NB: Ofcourse this is all under the asumption that it is indead a balancing-pipe.

Klaus will probably have more detailed info about it.

Maarten
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 7 Mar 2002
KlausXT600's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hamburg, Germany
Posts: 295
maarten is right.
yamaha used this box only for one or two years (am not sure). you cannot find this box in the recent models.
so what you can do is just to close the holes in the intake manifolds with a bolt or something similar that fits and leave away this box.
regards,
klaus
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 8 Mar 2002
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: sunny England
Posts: 790
thanks guys, ill try running without it for a while to see what happens, and post a reply on here in a week or so

------------------
dave
__________________
dave
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 15 Mar 2002
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: sunny England
Posts: 790
its not as straightforward as i thought,its not the little box that is split, its the inlet rubber itself.i dont think it will be hard to fix(locktite is such wonderful stuff if its not on a toilet seat,dont you agree?),but it means more of a stripdown than just removing the box,so ill do it when i get time.
and, wouldnt you know it, it was working fine till i touched it and now she runs rough!

------------------
dave
__________________
dave
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 15 Mar 2002
mmaarten's Avatar
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Thailand at the moment
Posts: 593
Maybe you can put some ducktape over it until you get time to fix it?
It's really bad for the engine to let it go on this way. I don't want to alarm you to much, but it could course permanent damage.
If it get's to hot for ducktape, try a piece of alu-tape (they use to fix exhausts).

Good luck
Maarten
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 15 Mar 2002
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: sunny England
Posts: 790
thanks mmaarten, im going to do it tomorrow,and say how i did it on the bullitin board(and how successful my repairs were, i hope!)

------------------
dave
__________________
dave
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 18 Mar 2002
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: sunny England
Posts: 790
I used cyano acrylate to bond the split,and changed the thin wire clips to wider jubilee type ones, kept the little box in the end,since there was nothing wrong with it.I`ll see how long it lasts,but the bike already runs better than when i got it!
while the bike was in bits on the floor I did Klaus` idea of plumbing a long hose to the crankcase breather that goes into the airbox.this now exits just over the chain.

------------------
dave
__________________
dave
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 15 Apr 2002
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: sunny England
Posts: 790
hi, its been a month now and everything is still ok.i still dont like the repairs, but it seems to be strong enough.

------------------
dave
__________________
dave
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 6 Jan 2008
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 13
hi davsato
do you still use the big black box?
i am thinking of removing it but dont have a clue on how to close the holes
thanks
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 6 Jan 2008
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sax, Spain
Posts: 901
Self amalgamating tape

Quote:
Originally Posted by DAVSATO View Post
hi, its been a month now and everything is still ok.i still dont like the repairs, but it seems to be strong enough.

------------------
dave
Hi you can get new carb rubbers for 40 euros or less from German ebay or repair the ones you have with self amalgamating rubber tape...... it is used by sattelite TV installers to waterproof joints between the Cable and the LNB.

It is Black, made of rubber and bonds to itself, you have to stretch it a bout twice its length as you apply it, so a little strip off of the carbs may be in order, but this stuff is the 'Squirrels Squeak'* so to speak!

Martyn


* Or Mutts Nuts, Bees Knees, whatever.....
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 6 Jan 2008
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 13
thanx m8
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

  • Virginia: April 24-27 2025
  • Queensland is back! May 2-4 2025
  • Germany Summer: May 29-June 1 2025
  • CanWest: July 10-13 2025
  • Switzerland: Date TBC
  • Ecuador: Date TBC
  • Romania: Date TBC
  • Austria: Sept. 11-15
  • California: September 18-21
  • France: September 19-21 2025
  • Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2 2025

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:30.