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Old 25 May 2012
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Do you have Electric start on your bike?
If you do, You've got the wrong wiring diagram!

Plus.. Does your ignition coil have two prongs or only one?

Ignition coil with two prongs + E-start:


The positive is the Orange cable that goes to the TCI (1) to the ignition coil back!!

One more question.. what exactly happens on the bike when you try to start it? do you hear any noises, any clicks anything?


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Thanks for a quick reply!

Unfortunately, I do have a right diagram... Yes, the engine has electric starter, but it is not compatible with the wiring and the bike itself (there was no starter button, no clutch switch, no connectors for them in the wiring). Because the engine is newer than the bike.

The CDI (or TCI, whatever it is..) has connectors exactly like in my diagram: two sockets (one with 2 and another with 3 wires) and 6 other wires that are "solo". So 11 wires total coming out of CDI.

CDI connectors matches the engine connectors and the bike was previously running (same engine, same CDI). There might something happened during my attempt to fix the wiring loom that was completely trashed, and now the wiring loom is new, fits perfectly, everything works, except for the damn spark!

Ignition coil has two connections. And I have the positive orange wire. The only thing is that the orange (positive) wire doesn't have any positive charge in it :confused1:
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Pic. 1.: ignition coil.
Pic. 2.: three engine connectors (+ blue wire for neutral).
Pic. 3.: CDI connectors.
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I'd bite my finger off and say that is surely a Tenere engine you got there..

Do any of the pictures on this site relate to your wiring?
xt wiring diagrams

This is one from Mezo:


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Yes, there's one that matches my wiring. Site Builder
But it's the same as I have posted above. It says "XT600K_91_94_3TB" and mine got it's engine number *3TB-097266*
My CDI has 11 wires, so other diagrams don't match.

So anyway, my wiring fits perfectly, everything works, except for God damn spark!
If someone, who has the same wiring in his/her's bike, could check where does the continuity go from orange wire at ignition coil I would highly appreciate it!

On Monday or Tuesday I'll go to see a wiring guru, who deals with all sorts of cars (even Ferrari...) and bikes and hopefully he should be able to tell me what's wrong in just a few minutes. Hopefully... Time moves so slow when you are waiting

I suspect the CDI. Hopefully I'm wrong and I just need to connect some wire somewhere and that would fix it
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...check the CDI with a multimeter? set it on continuity and see it it beeps to any of the other terminals. Also, check for voltage drop and switch the multimeter cables from red to black and black to red while doing the same check!
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Thanks for the tip!
I was checking but didn't know what to look for, can't believe I didn't think of it before...
Checked all wires coming out of CDI for continuity among them (when CDI is disconnected with all wires). There's continuity between all wires with one wire or another, as it should be I suppose, but EXCEPT for orange wire, that goes to ignition coil as positive charge. So, there's no continuity between orange and any of other cables, no matter if I connect multimeter's red or black connector to orange wire.

So when I attempted to fix the old wiring loom I shortened something out, and the ignition coil heated and "spat" some dark material from inside of a crack in the ignition coil's connectors side, and I suppose it wasn't the only thing that heated up... The orange wire must have heated up too to a degree that it failed inside a CDI unit "frying" it up, and the orange wire lost continuity with the wire it supposed to have.

So if the CDI is unrepairable part, because it is incased in resin, I will have to get another one.

Any suggestions?
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Steve, sorry mate, I don't understand what are you talking about :confused1:
Inhibiting the spark...?
Actually my bike runs great now, besides of needing to adjust the carbs a bit.
Can you explain what you meant to say?
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He postet in the wrong thread..
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Yoshimura Slip-On exhaust muffler for a Yamaha FZR600

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Just try it, wont do any harm anyway.
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