Neither. It lives over the right wheelarch in the rear of my 110 hardtop (Fridge on other side)
Sorry. 'On the hoof' is English idiom meaning 'on the move' - as in, I designed a bit here and a bit there, adding ideas as trips suggested different needs (and the container for teabags grew and grew!!!)
I will take some photos this weekend and email them. My gas canisters are stored in a large locker in front of the rear wheel, the size of two jerrycans. That way ferry companies cant see them and start hassling about carrying explosives!! It also keeps the weight down and hence the centre of gravity lower.

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My wife and I have just returned to England after a 2 year safari through Africa.
We travelled in a Defender and found that simple and light is the answer. We used a Coleman two burner stove (unleaded fuel but leaded worked fine as well), a platic day box that had tea/coffee/sugar/cups, etc. When we stopped we would be sitting in our chairs having a cup of tea/coffee in les than 10 minutes.
So, one coleman stove + 1 platic box (60/30/30cm)+ Engel fridge=kitchen.

Of course if you have £6000 you can get a safari trailer with built in kitchen, roof tent, lounge tent, awning, fridge/freezer!
You nedd to add +-£20000 for the car to drag it around

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Sounds you had a wonderful trip....good for you...I can't wait to go, so my project is good preparation:-)...

You said you had a fridge: How intensive did you use it? Just for cooling or for food in general as well? I haven't set my mind yet if a fridge is really necessary. Would like to hear your opinion.

With the kitchen, of course it's always a matter of money and how comfortable you want to travel. How was the handling with the Coleman, especially the preheating procedure and the regulation of the flame? Was it a big mess cookig with petrol? A lot of soot?

Cheers
Frank

Dear Frank

I am enjoying the many contributions to your ‘cooker thesis’ questions
Cooking
My answer is the ‘Kitmax twin-top tuck-box’ (world patents pending)
Never heard of it…?
I designed it to provide nutrition, in a hurry, in good or bad weather, in desert, mountain or moorland, indoors (onboard) or outdoors (desert or tent).
The box has two lids, each of which serves a different function in food preparation. One part provides a vegetable cutting mat too. It also carries plates, cutlery, mugs, openers, and of course a cooker, tea, coffee, sugar, etc.
Fridge
I don’t use a fridge now - I used one on a 6 month trip a while back. After many miles the vibration fractured the gas pipe, and I haven't used one since.
Water
To keep water cool I use a French legionnaire’s water bottle. Soak the outer cloth cover with a little water, and evaporation will bring the temperature down very effectively. It works like a guerba waterskin. For cans you use an old sock to do the same job…!
Photos
If you are interested I shall get some photographs of 'the box' on my website for your design thesis (in the next fortnight).
Article
I have been planning do write a 'desert cookery' article, complete with cutting list for the twin-top box, and your question has renewed my interest!
All best Kitmax

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Kitmax - Traveller
Desert Pictures at
http://www.kitmax.com/kitmax/kit03ph...velgallery.htm
homepage http://www.kitmax.com

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Hi Frank,

Very interesting topic and good luck with your thesis.
Afew yesrs ago I spent 5 week s camping in NT of Oz with rented,fully rigged LRD.Built into the back of it was a slide out drawer unit extending the full width of the back of the vehicle.It was a slide out kitchen containing:
2 ring gas stove
1 Small caravan type sink
1 Draining/chopping board
1 Cutlery drawer
1 From memory 40l water tank

The unit was fully plumbed with electric pump.Worked an absolute dream especially veg preps on board and sink.Operad with slps bucket an evironmentally frienly setup in organized camp grounds.With an awning over the rear of the vehicle and a camp table and various boxes laid symetrically around the back of the vehicle I sometimes felt like a real Floyd the chef!Definately encouraged a higher form of camp cooking.

The company I rented the vehicle from was Aussie Trax based in Hervey Bay Queensland.They have a website(which I can't locate at the moment)and I believe the kitchen unit was a homebuild idea based on stainless steel pull out drawers quite common in Oz.
Again,good luck and I will follow this thread with interest.
Tony.

My usual setup,which I have used for years is 2 ring gaz stove and pots stored in purpose built wooden box approx 350w x 400h x 650l with lid,cutlery,lamp pots etc in another identical,wooden box which nests on top of or,beside the first,dry goods in Rubbermaid plastic box(see thro) and fresh food in a fridge.
The wooden boxes can double as seats.I set the seats/boxes up to the side of and at 90deg.to the cooker with the fridge beside me and enjoy a whilst cooking.
Constantly fiddling with this arrangement but hell,thats part of the fun!!

Well I cook inside the vehicle (my vehicle is that bit bigger so it makes it easy)

The stove is removeable if I want to cook outside

I cook on gas carrying 2 * 907 campinggaz cyls

Also carried is a multifuel stove with Coleman fuel as a backup

You should also see 'chasing rainbows' by Peter & Eileen crichton for their V8 exhaust manifold cooking guide. By all accounts the toughest of meat could be made tender by 200k a day



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Sorry for the long silence. My thesis kept me quite busy and at this stage the design of my expedition kitchen is more or less done. I am just about to start building the prototype...mid of octobe is my presentation at uni and then....we will take it on the road with us to Africa...i will show pics when ready.

Some of you mentioned to send me some pictures of your kitchens....if you have any I am still interested to see them.

You can send them to: frank[at]designforafrica.com

Thanks:-)

I haven't told you about our Africa trip:

It's a trip along the east side of Africa and will go from Sweden to Cape Town in probably 10 months.

The aim of the journey is not only a travel adventure but also the realisation of a 3-months design project in the Nairobi slum, Kenya.
As we are both industrial designers we want to find out, how design can be used as a development tool in poor areas.
We gonna work with the people in the slum, identify problems with them and try to find solution they can realise with their possibilities.

You can find further details about it on
*** www.designforafrica.com ***

We will be happy if you follow the project and trip and of course, very happy if you spread the news about it.

If you have any comments we're happy for your feedback

Thanks
Frank

Hi Frank - sorry I havent sent the pix - just got back from Africa. Will email them when I get time this evening.

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Hi Runner,

still interested in your pics :-) ... Thanx.