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The right car
After reading the "Sahara Overland" book a few questions still remain.
If I’m planning on going to Mauri/Mali to sell a car, what kind of Mercedes would be best? My first choice would be a 190d (w201) but since the 200d (w124) actually is cheaper would that be a safe choice too? And how about a 300d (w124), 6 cylinder? Or should you always choose for a 4 cylinder manual? Is it acceptable to bring an injection engine? Or should it always be carburetor powered?
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Any of the Merc diesels will go down well over there, but if you're looking at petrol then carburettor would be preferable over injection purely from a maintenance perspective for your whilst travelling.

I'm looking a volvo diesel estates(740/940) as a possible option for my next road trip, again a fairly basic commercial unit that's durable - ideal for that sort of journey.
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Hi,

I have just come back from a trip Amsterdam- Bamako and sold my car in Mali. Selling it was no issue at all, we got asked 50 times a day if the car was for sale.

The questions they tend to ask, give a good impression of what they want:

Is it a diesel? (they strongly prefer a diesel)
Is it a manual? (they want manual, an automatic breaks down too quickly)
Is there airco? (they want airco, but if there is none its still ok)
Is it a 4 cylinder? (They prefer the 4 cyl because it consumes less)
They dont want a turbo or an injection. They want carburators, because they are more reliable and easier/cheaper to fix.

They prefer the 190d, because 'everyone has a 190d', but a manual 4 cylinder 200d will sell just as good. Just to give you an impression: we bought our w124 for 1600 euro and sold it there for a 1000 euro more.

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I posted a vid on youtube
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or my blog with car pics
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p.p.s. I would not go for a different car then a Mercedes Benz. By no means a volvo, I don't think I have ever seen a volvo in Mauri or Mali.
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Silly question but I guess they're only interested in left-hand drive vehicles?
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Obiahman - Did you have any problems with paperwork, or have you burned some bridges and can't go back? Cheers.
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...I’m planning on going to Mauri/Mali to sell a car...
What's the score with Carnets and payable duty etc when you sell a car or bike in these countries?
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We drove around Morocco 3 years ago in a rental tin can - and enjoyed the place so much we are thinking of heading back there next April - for 4-6 weeks.

Like the above we will be looking to take over a old Merc - from Switzerland - and sell it once we are done in Morocco.

What is the situation with regards to tax, customs, duty etc when doing this??

How easy is it to fly back to Europe without booking too far in advance?
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We are looking to do something similar in April/May next year - what are the implications in selling the car in Morocco - IE duty/tax to pay??

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As a non-resident you cannot sell a car in Morocco ... you'll have to take it further south!

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Thanks for the insightful replies! It will have to be a w124 200d then as these are cheaper and can accommodate more luggage then the w201 190d. In my limited technical understanding of a car, diesels always have an injection system instead of a carburetor right?
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What I usually do
buy a MB 207, or 307, 407 or similar 209, 408. This a mini bus. lot's of space. Diesel of course. they go for bush taxis down there. And many in Europe are equipped as camping cars. Sleep inside. so don't need a hotel, tent. Just they don't go quick. Come by very cheap after summer in Europe.
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Hi Manfred, I'm guessing you're German: How does a non resident take a German registered vehicle out of Germany legally? What number plates, Fahrzeugschein etc please? I've long wondered about this. Linzi.
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I've taken one to France on the 'temporary' plates which only have insurance for Germany for 5 days. I insured it on the spot with my French insurance company so that I could bring it home without worry.

The garage in Essen had the car ready for me in 36hrs. They dealt with the paperwork to get the car registered in my name for 100euros extra; to get the other plates (the ones valid for a year) it was 300euros. This was 2 years ago so prices might have gone up!

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Hello,
in Germany there are special number plates for vehicles that will be exported ("Ausfuhrkennzeichen"), which you can get at the vehicle registration of the local county or city ("Zulassungsstelle).

What you need for them is proof of ownership (Fahrzeugbrief/Zulassungsbescheinigung), a yellow insurance card, TÜV (it's a technical check up, you should get the document with the proof of ownership), your passport and either the valid number plate of the car or documentation stating that it's currently not registered.

You can have a look at what's needed in Frankfurt/M. here: Frankfurt am Main: Lebenssituationen[_id_inhalt]=58357 (German/Should apply equally everywhere in Germany).

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