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Which is more “FUEL” economical ? ....
Which is more “FUEL” economical ? ....

In my search for my perfect “Overlander”, I’ve decided against the Unimog 404 / Peugeot 505 4x4 / Bongo’s / vans etc etc etc … it’s now down to:

Toyota LC 80 series 4.2 Auto
Toyota LC 60 4.0 manual
Toyota pickup 2.4 manual
Land Rover 110 200 tdi manual 2 door hard top
Land Rover 110 300 tdi manual
Land Rover Discovery 300 tdi manual


All diesels … anyone know the approximate fuel consumption, say; loaded, roof rack – traveling on tarmac at +/- 60 mph 100kph… at the end of the day most of my traveling will be on surfaced roads.


Thanks in advance

Matthew
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If you ask 10 different people you'll get 10 different answers I think!
Anyway, I would say..

Toyota LC 80 series 4.2 Auto - 20 mpg (miles per gallon)
Toyota LC 60 4.0 - now sure, 25 mpg?
Toyota pickup 2.4 - maybe 28 mpg?
Land Rover 110 200 tdi - 30 mpg if you're lucky
Land Rover 110 300 tdi - 28 mpg if you're lucky
Discovery 300 tdi - again, 25 or 28 ish mpg

The Land Rovers will be a lot more economical as they are a smaller engine.
An 80 series Landcruiser can do about 30mpg if there is nothing on it and you take it easy. A 24 valve manual 80 would be the most economical of the 80s.
A 200 Tdi 110 would be the most economical Land Rover, but the 300s are similar.

A bicycle would be the very best, and you can do wheelies!!

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Hi,
25 mpg is about right as an average for the 4.0 60 (no turbo)
On our last trip we got up to 28 once on a long steady cruise (90 kph ish), dropping to 22 slogging up the high passes in the Alps.
I thought an auto 80 would be better than that, but never owned one so i certainly wouldn't take my word for it

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My HJ60 consumes 11-12L per 100km and my HJ61 is maybe 10% more economic, 10-11L / 100km
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Many thanks for your feedback... it certainly gives me something to work from.

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Hi - my 1990 LC 80 4.2TD Auto did around 19-20 mpg. Worst ever was 18, and best (ironically, because it was the cheapest in the world) was on Iranian diesel when it rose to the dizzying heights of 23!!
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A LR Discovery will be a bit more economical than a 110, I've had both.
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The 200tdi 90 I had for 6 years from 6 months old never did better than 28mpg, 7.50R16 bridgestone mud duellers, nearly always empty.
I thought a disco was more fuel efficient due to a more slippery shape and better cruising gearing, so UK to SA for instance high speed economy would never make itself felt? IMHO!
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Just to add

Land Rover 200 tdi 110 empty 28 mpg (LRO magazine independent test) much like Grizzly 90 !
LC hj75 Manual ’88 20 mpg

Thanks for the feedback and I hope it people keep adding to the list ….

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Our 200tdi Dormobile (Series III) averaged 27mpg during our through Europe and Morocco. If you drove it nice (ie: 80-90km/hr) on the motorway it would get 30mpg. Our current HJ61 (4.0 turbo) gets a couple MPG less than that on average but is a much nicer ride than the Rover.
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Hi All my experience;

200tdi 110 loaded for long w/end 27mpg over 700 miles mostly motorway
300tdi 90 also loaded 31 mpg over 900 miles mostly motorway
200 tdi disco loaded for month in morroco ave 34 mpg, best on motorway through spain 36mpg, worst 22mpg in dunes, ave worked over 4000 miles with details logged religously.

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The newer Land Cruisers 3.0 Liter D4-d are the best yet.

And saying that, the 80 series 4.2L autos are also up past the 25 mpg mark, when kept below 60 mph.

Here is me coming back from Norway.



From Norway, through Denmark, and up to Warrington, we were on cruises at 57 - 59 mph.
We got 30 mpg with the roof full, the inside very full (see the microwave lodged between the front seats) and a trailer.

I have not done any long trips with no load, or no trailer, but at 57 - 59 mph, I would suggest 32 mpg would be quite easy.

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I've had both 300Tdi discovery and Defender 110..

The Disco was more economical most of the time, but i's struggle to get more that around 28-30mpg out of it.
On the weekly commute (200 miles of motorway and heavy traffic) i'd typically be at around 26mpg.

On a run down to Spain last summer we were using similar amounts of fuel to a friend in his 110 CSW.

I did find the disco suffered a bit when using crap fuel in southern Morocco, but economy could be slightly improved using Millers diesel power fuel additive.
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