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Road worthiness inspection for imported bike in Sydney
Hi mates!
I recently moved to Oz and my bike ('14 Super Tenere) is on the way from the US. I have an import permit as this is supposed to be a permanent arrangement, not a carnet deal.
I need an inspection from a Roads and Maritime authorized examiner that the bike meets Oz standards for safety. Every shop I call, when they hear the word "imported" they say they are sorry, but "they don't do that stuff". I try to explain that this is an unmodified bike in excellent shape and that the same model was sold in Australia, but no luck.
So, any contacts of someone who can do this inspection in the Sydney area? Preferably north (around Ryde), but at this point I'll go anywhere. If you don't want to share phone numbers openly, please message me.
Thanks!
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22 Nov 2016
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I need an inspection from a Roads and Maritime authorized examiner that the bike meets Oz standards for safety.
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 That is not a 'normal' inspection. Bikes imported into Australia have an Australian Design Rule plate saying it meets various requirements. It is going to be costly to get that kind of certification .. you might get lucky with the Australian importer ... if your very lucky. So you need to contact the importer ... and, while your waiting for a response, I'd also contact the Roads and Maritime people and see if they have a list of the people that might do it.
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That is not a 'normal' inspection. Bikes imported into Australia have an Australian Design Rule plate saying it meets various requirements. It is going to be costly to get that kind of certification .. you might get lucky with the Australian importer ... if your very lucky. So you need to contact the importer ... and, while your waiting for a response, I'd also contact the Roads and Maritime people and see if they have a list of the people that might do it. |
The importer (I assume you mean the cargo company) has no clue...
I think I can do it through the Yamaha dealer. They import vehicles all the time. Might be more expensive, but in the end I need my bike!
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The importer (I assume you mean the cargo company) has no clue...
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No.
The cargo company is a 'shipper' or 'transporter'. The firm bring the products in for sale is the importer - they pay the manufacture, the cargo company, the import duty, arrange the approval of the goods to Australian requirements and arrange the sale of the goods .. in this case through a dealer network.
https://www.yamaha-motor.com.au/
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I think I can do it through the Yamaha dealer. They import vehicles all the time.
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No. The dealer gets the bikes from the importer. You would need to talk to Yamaha Australia. I don't think you'll get a favourable response from any of them, but it is worth a try. Extremely few dealers (dealer - sells direct to the public) would import vehicles themselves.
Read misterpauls post .. that is probably your best bet for getting it on the road.
http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/regi...-vehicles.html
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There are two steps that you need to get the vehicle registered;
1. is getting the vehicle inspected by a vehicle engineer (member of Institute of Automotive Engineers) who will then issue a compliance plate if it meets all of the Australian Design Rules applicable for a 2014 build bike.
2. Once you have the compliance plate you can then get the vehicle inspected for roadworthiness - ie all the things that must be on the bike to meet ADRs actually work. A regular garage can do the roadworthy test - I think they call them Pink Slips in NSW.
It is unlikely that the bike will pass the ADR as your vehicle is designed for the US market - in Australia the headlamp must dip to the left, indicators must be amber, brake and tail light must be red are the usual failures. Beam benders are not acceptable so you will need to source the correct headlamp lens and correct coloured lenses.
Sometimes approaching the importer will get you a letter of compliance if they know you have done the mods needed for ADRs, in which case you don't have to find a vehicle engineer.
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No.
The cargo company is a 'shipper' or 'transporter'. The firm bring the products in for sale is the importer - they pay the manufacture, the cargo company, the import duty, arrange the approval of the goods to Australian requirements and arrange the sale of the goods .. in this case through a dealer network.
https://www.yamaha-motor.com.au/
No. The dealer gets the bikes from the importer. You would need to talk to Yamaha Australia. I don't think you'll get a favourable response from any of them, but it is worth a try. Extremely few dealers (dealer - sells direct to the public) would import vehicles themselves.
Read misterpauls post .. that is probably your best bet for getting it on the road.
Imported vehicles - Get a NSW registration - Registration - Roads - Roads and Maritime Services |
In this case the importer is me... I got an import permit under the Personal Imports Option. Sounds like I am screwed then, doesn't it? 
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There are two steps that you need to get the vehicle registered;
1. is getting the vehicle inspected by a vehicle engineer (member of Institute of Automotive Engineers) who will then issue a compliance plate if it meets all of the Australian Design Rules applicable for a 2014 build bike.
2. Once you have the compliance plate you can then get the vehicle inspected for roadworthiness - ie all the things that must be on the bike to meet ADRs actually work. A regular garage can do the roadworthy test - I think they call them Pink Slips in NSW.
It is unlikely that the bike will pass the ADR as your vehicle is designed for the US market - in Australia the headlamp must dip to the left, indicators must be amber, brake and tail light must be red are the usual failures. Beam benders are not acceptable so you will need to source the correct headlamp lens and correct coloured lenses.
Sometimes approaching the importer will get you a letter of compliance if they know you have done the mods needed for ADRs, in which case you don't have to find a vehicle engineer.
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Well, the turn signals are amber and the tail light and brake light are red. Don't know about the headlamp and reflector though.
Anyway, this is ending up being the biggest freakin mistake I have done in a very long time. I am picking up the bike on Thursday and still have no clue what to do with it. 
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This is going to help or make you feel any better. But why the hell ddint you just sell it before you came. With the exchange rate the way it ios it would have been much better to just buy another one here.
Sorry I know this doesnt help. Hope its not too much of an expensive mistake for you.
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This is going to help or make you feel any better. But why the hell ddint you just sell it before you came. With the exchange rate the way it ios it would have been much better to just buy another one here.
Sorry I know this doesnt help. Hope its not too much of an expensive mistake for you.
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Well, they don't tell you all this BS beforehand. Getting an import permit was easy and it was not costly to ship in a shared container. I (naively) thought that since this is an unmodified bike that was also sold in Oz it should not be a big problem to get it registered.
Also, the bike has been to 11 countries with me and I thought it would be fun to continue on for a bit.
But indeed, it is turning out to be a huge mistake. Oh well, what goes up will come down.
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Originally Posted by Minotaur
my bike ('14 Super Tenere) is on the way from the US. I have an import permit as this is supposed to be a permanent arrangement, not a carnet deal.
I need an inspection from a Roads and Maritime authorized examiner that the bike meets Oz standards for safety.
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What was been done to the 'standard' bike to get it to meet the Australian Design Rules? There will not be many people who know... eg brakes? Pollution? ... noise?
Getting it to the right kind of inspector who does this kind of work is one thing .. then you have to pay them. You might get somewhere comparing part numbers between the US model and Oz models ... document it and provide it with the bike when you have found someone willing to do the work - it should help them and possibly reduce the costs.
Too late to go back now. Most people importing things ... well they chose stuff that is either old or special to them.
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Mate, did you check out the link I posted a week ago?
RMS are the people you need to deal with to get rego. I posted a link to the page on their website that deals with imported vehicles.
There's a pdf you can open from that page with a list of licensed certifiers. There's also a RMS technical enquiries phone number and email address so you can ask them direct instead of asking people here who've probably never done what you're trying to do.
Good luck, hope you get it worked out.
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Done!
Ok guys, I finally got it sorted. Thanks for everyone's help and suggestions.
If you hear of a poor soul trying to figure out how to do this in the future, have them message me.
And by the way, I have plated bike in Sydney but little knowledge of places to ride. If anyone wants to get together, let me know.
Cheers,
Nikos.
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