4Likes
-
2
Post By Grant Johnson
-
2
Post By PrinceHarley
|
24 Jan 2021
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 2
|
|
Shipping bike from USA to Melbourne for a 3-4 year stay
Hi all,
I may be getting transferred to Melbourne from the USA for work for a 3-4 year stint. I have two bikes that are very well modded and either would be perfect for commuting and exploring AU while there. It’s a bit of an awkward amount of time since it’s a bit long to leave the bikes unused at home in the USA, but also longer than a temporary trip which creates issues with permitting etc.
Would it be worth importing? Or should I just take my lumps and buy a bike in AU? I get the sense that vehicles are quite expensive in AU.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
|
24 Jan 2021
|
|
HU Founder
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Dec 1997
Location: BC Canada
Posts: 7,324
|
|
Bringing a bike into Australia requires one of two options:
1: Bring it in on a carnet - which means you must leave within a reasonable period of time - and 3-4 years isn't even close to a "reasonable" time, they're thinking under a year - there may be a specific period but can't think what it is at the moment.
2: Bring it in as "settlers effects" which means you are immigrating! (We did that and it worked fine and was easy. I only had to swap out the headlight to accommodate riding on the left instead of right, and pass the safety test.)
Sorry, three options - where's my head at? Oh, over there....
3: Import it - you won't like the costs - first you have to ship it there, think roughly $1000-2000. Then you have to pay the duties and taxes. And THAT'S why bikes in Oz are more expensive. Oh year, you'll probably want to ship it home too. More $$
Since neither of those sounds like your plan, I'd recommend just buying in Australia. IMPORTANT: You said that bikes were expensive in Australia. However, when you SELL IT you are also selling it HIGH.
Therefore the actual cost of ownership isn't a heck of a lot different than anywhere else.
Hope that helps!
__________________
Grant Johnson
Seek, and ye shall find.
------------------------
Inspiring, Informing and Connecting travellers since 1997!
www.HorizonsUnlimited.com
|
25 Jan 2021
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Esperance, Western Australia
Posts: 92
|
|
The various government departments in Australia (State and Federal) seem to all have made it their sole purpose in life to discourage the importation (permanent or otherwise) of foreign registered vehicles.
Carnet importation isn't too bad, but you are limited to how long you are allowed to do that for. Not sure of the precise period, but it's way less than the four years you mention.
Personal importation as a migrant (or temporary employment visa holder? Not sure) is a viable option, and is the best option to import a modified bike without getting it past a compliance inspection. If the bike is heavily modded, you will need to get engineering sign-off on it too if you go this way.
If the vehicle is pre-1989, importation is a load easier, but that is probably no help to you.
Other people may know better, but you're far better off buying in-country in my opinion.
Good luck.
__________________
Hear the challenge, learn the lesson, pay the cost.
|
25 Jan 2021
|
R.I.P. 25 November 2021
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 688
|
|
As everyone has said, just buy a used local bike. (bikesales.com.au)
Mezo.
|
25 Jan 2021
|
R.I.P. 25 November 2021
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 688
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by PrinceHarley
If the vehicle is pre-1989, importation is a load easier, but that is probably no help to you.
|
That rule has changed now, the rolling 25-year rule replaces the previous pre-1989 rule.
https://www.carsales.com.au/editoria...o%20or%20more.
Mezo.
|
25 Jan 2021
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Esperance, Western Australia
Posts: 92
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezo
|
Well that makes perfect sense and is eminently sensible.
Therefore, this decision MUST have come from someone outside of government.
__________________
Hear the challenge, learn the lesson, pay the cost.
|
25 Jan 2021
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Colombia,(when not travelling)
Posts: 384
|
|
As others have said, a carnet isn't going to work for two reasons:
1) It's a maximum of a year (you can extend for another year in some countries, however I'm sure that Australia limits the carnet to a year).
2) A carnet is for visitors, not residents, and you're going to be resident.
The "settler's effects" option might work, however you still have to pay for shipping, and recent enquiry has revealed that shipping costs have gone up a lot in the last year.
I'd buy a new bike in Australia; apart from other benefits this will avoid the potential for problems with maintenance, even if your bikes are standard and sold in Australia. When we travelled in Australia we found that because our vehicle was not originally registered there (i.e., had not been imported into the country by the manufacturer) we had problems because it didn't show up on the dealerships' database - i.e., as far as they were concerned, it didn't exist. This was fixed, with some helpful work by Arnott's in Sydney, but was somewhat inconvenient until they managed to solve the problem and get our vehicle onto the database.
|
5 Feb 2021
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 96
|
|
Just to add to your problems mate, if you do try and import your bike MUST comply with Australian Design Rules. A US bike will not. Several items at the very least will be required, including, orange turn signals, headlight that dips left, a KLM speedo, a compliant exhaust, right down to stuff like an Unleaded Fuel only sticker on the tank.
Buy in OZ and then flog it when you leave mate.
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...
2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.
"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)
Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.
Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.
Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!
What others say about HU...
"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia
"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK
"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia
"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA
"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada
"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa
"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia
"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany
Lots more comments here!
Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook
"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.
Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!
New to Horizons Unlimited?
New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!
Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.
Read more about Grant & Susan's story
Membership - help keep us going!
Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.
You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.
|
|
|