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Originally Posted by colebatch
Its kinda overdue.
Its kinda heavy for what it is (over 200 kgs DRY weight and 219 kgs with fuel)
There's not a lot to add to existing opinions of the F800GS apart from the fact that there is 8 more litres of fuel built in.
But its going to be a decent and solid, but not brilliant, off the factory floor go around the world on asphalt and occasional gravel roads bike. It will still not have rims and suspension capable of real off road riding, but none of the other heavyweight adventure bikes (except for maybe the KTM 990) do either. Here is a pic of an F800 wheel after a week off road in Siberia with my group last year. Those of us with good off-road suitable rims had no issues, no dents, no dings, no warping, just rims that stayed completely in shape, while the original BMW F800 rim was utterly destroyed in a week.
The F800 Adventures competition among the heavyweight adventure bikes (and now that its over 200 kgs dry - its a genuine heavyweight) - is going to be the approx same weight KTM 990 Adventure R.
I reckon it would be a similar standard road touring bike when compared to the KTM and a lot worse off road than the KTM.
Always good to have more adventure bikes on the market ... and its good to see BMW (of all manufacturers) so publicly recognising that 1200cc is not a prerequisite for an adventure bike.
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts about this bike.
Well - the dry weight is 204 kgs and then add 24 litres of fuel makes it 228 kgs or so. But its still very much lighter than the 1200/1200 adventure for example.
And youre not totally right when you write that there isnt a whole lot more to it than 8 litres more of fuel capacity. BMW writes this about it:
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So, what makes this new version of the BMW F800GS an Adventure? It starts with the tubular steel trellis frame, which is basically stock F800GS hardware but is fitted with a strengthened rear subframe designed to handle the increased loads of off-road riding and the heavier new fuel tank, which, at 6.3 gallons, is 2.1 gallons larger than a standard F800GS’s. What’s more, the F800GS Adventure has new bodywork designed to keep proportions right, even with the large tank, while a larger windscreen, a more comfortable bench seat. [I]
When you compare the rims on the BMW 800 gs with others that you find so much better it could be of interest to know for other readers what bikes and rims are you comparing with? And were these wheels/rims of stock or maybe special replacement rims? If you compare a BMW 800 gs with for example a KTM 690 or a Suzuki DRZ 400 or something similar - its not exactly the same thing.....and thus you cant expect the same either.
Another question that comes to mind is how much off road riding do one want to do - or have to do - if one is riding overland? If you have a bike loaded with - I dont know but maybe 40-50 kgs extra of luggage, side and top cases etc etc - do one really want to go hardcore offroad riding? One sure want a bike that is capable on dirt and gravel roads - but offroad and enduro riding would probably be very much better with a smaller bike with no or very little luggage and also better equipped when it comes to tyres, rims, etc. In other words - a completely different thing.
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