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BMW R1200 GSA - Engine shut down while riding.
I did a long trip from Muscat, Oman to Hamburg, Germany. And I shipped my bike back. it arraived after 2 months.
Yesterday, i took the bike for a ride and it was fine. But today i took a ride again, and after less than 20km then bike shut down while riding. I park the bike a side and trying to figure what was a problem?
- Battery is = fine.
- Fuel level is = fine.
- Fuel sensor was also = fine.
- Spark plugs I change them before the trip = fine.
- Ignition is working fine and is kicking.
until know I don't have a clue?!
I need a technical support guys.
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Hamood Khamis
Muscat, Oman
BMW R1200GS Adventure
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10 Nov 2013
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I found the reason: Fuel pump not working, require replacement
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Side stand switch
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Battery cables tightened? I would suspect you had the battery disconnected for transport? Fuel supply disconnected for transport? Kill switch corroded?
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New fuel?
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1200 gs
The Fuel Pump Electronic Unit which sits on top of the fuel pump lid is an issue with the GS built around those. We changed hundreds of them. When you take the left front fairing away, you'll spot it. It's fixed with one torx screw and has one cable connection. Sometimes the unit is under water, other times it's just internally broken.
Check this link and you'll see how it looks like: BMW Motorrad Teile - R1200GS RT R ST K1200R S S1000RR K46 Steuerung Benzinpumpe Tank fuel pump Neu (16 14 7 720 776) - KFM Motorräder
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If it is the fuel pump controller, (most probably) and you are out on the road, send me a pm and I'll tell you how to make a simple bypass to get you rolling again. I had two of those units burn out on me on the road.
Bypass worked and was taken off to be replaced with a new FPC some 2700 miles later!
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Thank you all for your feed back.
I found the answer after taking to BMW Dealer.
The issue was fuel pump and fuel electric sensor were not working and required replacement. These items are very costly.
Since I have mechanical background I decided to fix it by myself. i found a website http://maxbmwmotorcycles.com
where you can order any EOM parts of BMW
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Quote:
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Had a similar problem with an F650GS, a short in the wiring for the side stand, You can clip the wires and attach full time, but then the bike will start in gear with the sidestand down. Not sure if it is the same for yours, but it may be worth a look.
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I had the same problem of engine switching off on my former F650. It would even shut down on 5th gear at full pelt. Scary.
It was a software problem. Funny enough my husband had a similar problem few months later on his F650 Dakar.
In this case you may need a software upgrade, although BMW will say there is no such thing this is still what they did and how they charged us!
Good luck!
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shut down
I have BMW GS 1200 adventure and had the problem once where I shut it off in traffic waiting for train crossing and it would not start after that. It was just dead and would do nothing. I ended up trying the other key that my wife carried as I had put my key in the lock on the luggage. With her key it started right up like nothing was wrong. After that my key worked fine and never caused another problem so not sure what did it.
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I think the side stand switch is the most likely.... And VERY easy to bypass.
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Hi guys
Similar problem happened to me. While on long trip when I come down on speed and close the throttle the engine will go off once in a while. I had got me in to some dangerous situations which I escaped. With in seconds after that it will start and run properly as though nothing happened. This was not a regular occurrence.
Took it to BMW and they ran all kinds of test and nothing was found including the fuel pump and side stand switch. It still happens once in a while say every 1000 miles.
Any guess what it could be?
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Hi guys
Similar problem happened to me. While on long trip when I come down on speed and close the throttle the engine will go off once in a while. I had got me in to some dangerous situations which I escaped. With in seconds after that it will start and run properly as though nothing happened. This was not a regular occurrence.
Took it to BMW and they ran all kinds of test and nothing was found including the fuel pump and side stand switch. It still happens once in a while say every 1000 miles.
Any guess what it could be?
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Probably still the fuel pump... Even if they test okay.. We've had bikes which show no problems with the fuel pump on our BMW diagnostic computer but the bike still would cut out. Only by taking an expensive leap of faith and replacing it did it solve the issue.
The fuel pump controllers 'used' to be an issue but the new ones are fine now. Hardly any problems. Doesn't mean it's not that though.
That is my 'guess' as long as you are sure that there are no other faults.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bertrand
If it is the fuel pump controller, (most probably) and you are out on the road, send me a pm and I'll tell you how to make a simple bypass to get you rolling again. I had two of those units burn out on me on the road.
Bypass worked and was taken off to be replaced with a new FPC some 2700 miles later!
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Like this one ???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c_30Nn0BWE
Better is to have it switched..
If you run it from the DIN socket, they stay active for 30 seconds after the ignition is cut off which means the pump is still running when the bike is not.
Not recommended.
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