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Old 23 Nov 2007
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R100GS advice in Aus-bloody-tralia

I am novice when it comes to R100PD's (good with land rovers though).

I want to ride from Aus, to Europe, and hopefully down into South Africa over the course of 2 years.

I am currently looking at 2 R100 GSPDs. Both have approx. 90 000 kms. (Seems to be pretty common that people sell at 90K over here?)

Unfortunately, pictures and the sellers word is all I have to go by as bikes are located across the other side of the country. The asking price is about A$6 900 ' 92 or A$7 500 '93. These prices are pretty much on par with the market in AUS, and to be honest, they are only getting more expensive.

The '92 has had some recent work done to it:
replaced the drive shaft universals in March of 2006. The valves, valve springs, seats and guides have been replaced in August 2006, new fork springs, and steering bearings.

The '93 has no pannier rack, so added $$.

I realize it is kind of a ridiculous question, but from experience with your own PD's, and considering I hope to rack up a good 70 000ks, what 'preventative' maintenance prior to departure should I be factoring on top of the purchase price?

Any advice would be super.

Also forgot to mention, the '93 has had rear frame strengthened for previous 2-up travel (strengthened or cracked and repaired? unfortunately just cant see the bike prior to purchase). Front brake also has a floating disc.....if you had to buy blind, which would you choose?
BMW R100GSPD - eBay BMW, Road Bikes, Motorcycles, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 24-Nov-07 14:18:07 AEDST)


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-Spare rotor
-New brushes for alternator
-Change pushrod seals
-Change timing chain
-Piston rings
-Carb rebuild
-Øhlins shock
-Top end job
-Check all bearings (steering, wheel, swingarm)
-Change oil and filters
-New battery (?)
-Check rims for cracks (not likely but they are expensive)
-Adjust ignition and check that advancement works
-Check driveshaft
-Clean and lube starter
-Install fuel filters
-Change oilseals in gearbox (if you are paranoid)
-Cange fork-oil, clean the forks and inspect the bearings
-Install a voltmeter

The shock probably costs more then all the other stuff on the list, so pick a bike with a good shock!


Hmm, a long list but you can do most of the job in two days. I went on a 50kkm trip when my bike had almost 90kkm, check here; http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...long-tour-7818
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How about looking for a standard GS instead of the usually much more expensive PD's? Fitting an after-market tank from Acerbis gives you more volume (43L instead of 32L) and a lower centre of gravity. The PD and standard GS are otherwise identical.

Re luggage you'll need to think about something sturdier than the standard Beemer set. This is good for tarmac, but will never last on African pistes or Ozzie backroads... Something like Metal Mule or Touratech, or maybe even home-made ;-)

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Insure it for more then it's worth and then burn/crash it and reap the rewards to spend on an everyday GS parts are much more common.
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Insure it for more then it's worth and then burn/crash it and reap the rewards to spend on an everyday GS parts are much more common.

isnt that how the aussies got there in the first place, by being criminal?
no offence meant but it did tickle me did that!

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Bin the starter motor and git a Nippon replacement or have the magnets bolted in (Valeo).

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-Spare rotor
-New brushes for alternator
-Change pushrod seals
-Change timing chain
-Piston rings
-Carb rebuild
-Øhlins shock
-Top end job
-Check all bearings (steering, wheel, swingarm)
-Change oil and filters
-New battery (?)
-Check rims for cracks (not likely but they are expensive)
-Adjust ignition and check that advancement works
-Check driveshaft
-Clean and lube starter
-Install fuel filters
-Change oilseals in gearbox (if you are paranoid)
-Cange fork-oil, clean the forks and inspect the bearings
-Install a voltmeter

The shock probably costs more then all the other stuff on the list, so pick a bike with a good shock!


Hmm, a long list but you can do most of the job in two days. I went on a 50kkm trip when my bike had almost 90kkm, check here; http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...long-tour-7818

OOF! Why not just get a japanese bike and not do anything but ride it?
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OOF! Why not just get a japanese bike and not do anything but ride it?
Well, we are talking about a 15 year old bike that should be used for another 70kkm. Most Japanese bikes don’t even last 70kkm wihout serious work
Two days of preparation isn’t that bad, or?

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Greetings Al

I went through the same search that you are doing now about two years ago and I would be very wary about buying any GSPD without actually seeing it or knowing it's history.

All the PD's I looked at (with one exception) had done over 100k even when the owners had them listed as 70k (the odometer only counts up to 99,999) I suspect the bike you mention that has done 6k is in that category.

In the end I bought one that had done 120k and I was the fourth owner but I had every service/parts receipt since the bike was new so knew what had been done to it.

While nothing was particularly wrong with it I ended up stripping it down to the frame cleaning and regreasing everything which was very worthwile as I found some non obvious problems (frayed wiring, stripped bolts) including bodgey work done done by others.

I also ended up doing virtually all the things suggested by the other people in this thread as they are known(?) faults of the GSPD and has been said earlier any +10 year old bike needs significant work and this will cost you money and time

Is there a particular reason you wanted a GSPD? While I am very with happy mine now and since we are travelling two up I wanted a bike larger than a 650 single, that and a few other reasons (shaft vs chain, simple tech) was why I choose it, but a new(er) KLR650, DR650, F650, etc may be an option for you. You will still need to spend money but at least you have a known bike. Also a loaded GSPD is a weightier beast to pick up!

Finally if you are travelling two up I would recommend at upgrading the alternator. We discovered that running two electric vests (78watts extra) on top of the standard electrics on the GSPD was enough to prevent the battery from being properly charged even though we were at highway speed for virutally all our travel. Getting on the bike and finding a totally flat battery in a Canada carpark after three weeks of travelling did not make me a happy camper. Bugger.

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Smile BMW stock versus Tourtech

Open any top box of any BMW stock luggage set for a GS and gee whiz - go figure "Built by Tourtech" is stuck on the inside. Son of a gun. Tough boxes, I know I've beat mine up pretty good and would buy another set tomorrow if I needed them. Ps. They are ugly. In a pretty sort of way. No, come to think of it they are just plain ugly. But I like em. They work, they're dry and you can use them as lawn furniture. So there.
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Touratech top box

Stu

Have you had a Touratech top-box fall off yet? I've heard of this happening. Mine came close, with one of the mounting plate bolts breaking. Once the bolt went, it was possible for the box to tilt up far enough to slide over the lock.

That could have been nasty for whoever was following.
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Thanks

Just a quick note to say thanks for all your advice, appreciate your time.

Also noticed a '92 100GS that has come on the market with only 6 000 ks....
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Al,

what site is the new one on?

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