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Red triangle warning light comes on (BMW 1200 GS)
This hasn't happened before. The red triangle warning light has just come on, on my 2006 BMW 1200 GS. No other lights with it, just the red triangle warning light. After trying a few things I realised that it comes on when I engage the front brake. I've checked the front brake level and, no, it isn't touching the hand guard. It's free to return to its usual position.
So, I asume the computer is telling me it thinks there is something wrong with the front brake, even though the bike was fine for the 20 miles or so back home today.
Guess I'd better get it checked out but thought I'd ask here first. Anyone had anything similar?
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First check no bulbs are blown. Note: There may be two rear bulbs.
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If it was a bumb it would say "lampf" on the dash...
I'm guessing it's one of the ABS sensors playing up or if you're really unlucky, the ABS controller itself. Assuming you have ABS !!
Have you got a way to read fault codes ??
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I think I had this problem a couple of years ago, but can't remember how I fixed it! I think it might have been a dirty ABS sensor, but am not sure.
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I don't think it's the bulb. I have a problem with the front main beam. When I start the bike up the computer tells me that the main beam doesn't work (and i can see that it doesn't) but it usually comes on after 5 minutes. I'm thinking that there is a loose conenction and perhaps some water and it dries out after a while??
However I think you may be right about the sensor. I'd better get it checked out.
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I don't think it's the bulb. I have a problem with the front main beam. When I start the bike up the computer tells me that the main beam doesn't work (and i can see that it doesn't) but it usually comes on after 5 minutes. I'm thinking that there is a loose conenction and perhaps some water and it dries out after a while??
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Might be a loose connection .. but not water related. Can still be a broken bulb - the filament is broken but with some vibration makes contact and stays together while riding and lit (warm therefore longer), once switched off cools, shrinks and breaks contact. Buy a spare and see.
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However I think you may be right about the sensor. I'd better get it checked out.
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Give the sensor and area a good clean before you spend money. Soapy water and a soft brush.
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Do those dongles tell you if the fault is present or not ??
From what Ive seen the faults they bring up can be quite misleading. And information without professional interpretation can be even worse...
If you have NON INTEGRAL Abs you can bleed your brakes like any bike..
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Yes Ted , they tell you if a fault is present or not and a whole load of other data besides.
I would not be without mine. It tells it like it is unlike.....well.... ahem.... 'whistling' !
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Yes Ted , they tell you if a fault is present or not and a whole load of other data besides.
I would not be without mine. It tells it like it is unlike.....well.... ahem.... 'whistling' !
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Well as you know, I use the BMW supplied MOSS diagnosis computer at work.
£50,000 worth so I'm told.
It is our most important tool by a long way. When you have a Modern BMW connected up to it, there is very little I can't control and diagnose. I feel like the Wizard of Oz when I'm using it. But it takes A LOT of time and training to get the hang of it. We have to go on continuous training courses.
The way I can individually control and diagnose controllers, switches, sensors and inputs is absolutely fantastic. And I think it is also VITAL in modern Motorcycle maintenance. I'd honestly be lost without it with many faults.
Even the other local motorcycle dealers drop bikes off with us to diagnose as they either can't or can't spare the time it takes a none Moss-equipped dealer. Much to their frustration. They can read faults themselves but they can't talk to the bike and do the important calibration and programming stuff.
I am really interested in seeing a dongle in use and what exactly it can do..
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Oh dear,where did it all go wrong?......it all seems to be going down the same crappy road as the modern motor car..don't even sneeze in case a sensor or electrical component is going to have a hissy fit and **** everything up..
Then some half wit decides to use components that need programming to the vehicle or have the information input to it via the dealer specific equipment that downloadeds it from BMW....or audi,vw,mercedes etc for that matter,...high command back in Germany..
It gets even worse when some of he dealers try and tell you how wonderful all this equipment is,ok sometimes it can be bang on correct,but ive seen on quite a few occasions you may as well ask the dog....bark 4 times for crank sensor,bark 8 times for abs control relay....and then sometimes for absolute comedy you get....undocumented code?....It was possible to something with fuel injection and abs that never realy went that wrong....but it's very bad for economy and its much better to churn out this junk that's finished or unviable to fix it once its 4 years old,to ensure the sale of new vehicles..  ...this may seem a bit negative about certain German machinery....but my experiences with the French vehicles I wouldn't even be allowed to post as I may get into trouble...fuu...........d.....sh.......e..
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Oh dear,where did it all go wrong?......it all seems to be going down the same crappy road as the modern motor car..don't even sneeze in case a sensor or electrical component is going to have a hissy fit and **** everything up..
Then some half wit decides to use components that need programming to the vehicle or have the information input to it via the dealer specific equipment that downloadeds it from BMW....or audi,vw,mercedes etc for that matter,...high command back in Germany..
It gets even worse when some of he dealers try and tell you how wonderful all this equipment is,ok sometimes it can be bang on correct,but ive seen on quite a few occasions you may as well ask the dog....bark 4 times for crank sensor,bark 8 times for abs control relay....and then sometimes for absolute comedy you get....undocumented code?....It was possible to something with fuel injection and abs that never realy went that wrong....but it's very bad for economy and its much better to churn out this junk that's finished or unviable to fix it once its 4 years old,to ensure the sale of new vehicles..  ...this may seem a bit negative about certain German machinery....but my experiences with the French vehicles I wouldn't even be allowed to post as I may get into trouble...fuu...........d.....sh.......e..
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Yup........ That's why I ride a 20 year old Honda
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The abs light will stay on if its an abs problem.. Just stamp on the back brake and see if you can slide it. If it skids, your abs is disabled. If its a newer non servo assisted abs type then your brakes will still work fine.
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Thanks Ted. The ABS hasn't flashed up at all, I was just speculating. Of course, if it was ABS related then I'd expect the ABS to flash. All I have is a Red triangle. Nothing else.
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Does it not bring up any codes on the dash with that red light ??
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No, nothing. Just a solid (ie, not flashing) red triangle.
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