Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Technical, Bike forums > BMW Tech
BMW Tech BMW Tech Forum - For Questions specific and of interest to BMW riders only.
Photo by Lois Pryce, schoolkids in Algeria

25 years of HU Events


Destination ANYWHERE...
Adventure EVERYWHERE!




Photo of Lois Pryce, UK
and schoolkids in Algeria



Like Tree10Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10 Nov 2013
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Stratford-upon-Avon, UK
Posts: 368
Red triangle warning light comes on (BMW 1200 GS)

This hasn't happened before. The red triangle warning light has just come on, on my 2006 BMW 1200 GS. No other lights with it, just the red triangle warning light. After trying a few things I realised that it comes on when I engage the front brake. I've checked the front brake level and, no, it isn't touching the hand guard. It's free to return to its usual position.

So, I asume the computer is telling me it thinks there is something wrong with the front brake, even though the bike was fine for the 20 miles or so back home today.

Guess I'd better get it checked out but thought I'd ask here first. Anyone had anything similar?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10 Nov 2013
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: East Sussex, England
Posts: 174
First check no bulbs are blown. Note: There may be two rear bulbs.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10 Nov 2013
*Touring Ted*'s Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wirral, England.
Posts: 5,679
If it was a bumb it would say "lampf" on the dash...

I'm guessing it's one of the ABS sensors playing up or if you're really unlucky, the ABS controller itself. Assuming you have ABS !!

Have you got a way to read fault codes ??
__________________
Did some trips.
Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
Can't say anymore.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10 Nov 2013
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 1,377
I think I had this problem a couple of years ago, but can't remember how I fixed it! I think it might have been a dirty ABS sensor, but am not sure.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10 Nov 2013
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Stratford-upon-Avon, UK
Posts: 368
I don't think it's the bulb. I have a problem with the front main beam. When I start the bike up the computer tells me that the main beam doesn't work (and i can see that it doesn't) but it usually comes on after 5 minutes. I'm thinking that there is a loose conenction and perhaps some water and it dries out after a while??

However I think you may be right about the sensor. I'd better get it checked out.

Cheers
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10 Nov 2013
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,131
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonesome George View Post
I don't think it's the bulb. I have a problem with the front main beam. When I start the bike up the computer tells me that the main beam doesn't work (and i can see that it doesn't) but it usually comes on after 5 minutes. I'm thinking that there is a loose conenction and perhaps some water and it dries out after a while??
Might be a loose connection .. but not water related. Can still be a broken bulb - the filament is broken but with some vibration makes contact and stays together while riding and lit (warm therefore longer), once switched off cools, shrinks and breaks contact. Buy a spare and see.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonesome George View Post
However I think you may be right about the sensor. I'd better get it checked out.
Give the sensor and area a good clean before you spend money. Soapy water and a soft brush.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 30 Nov 2013
*Touring Ted*'s Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wirral, England.
Posts: 5,679
Do those dongles tell you if the fault is present or not ??

From what Ive seen the faults they bring up can be quite misleading. And information without professional interpretation can be even worse...

If you have NON INTEGRAL Abs you can bleed your brakes like any bike..
__________________
Did some trips.
Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
Can't say anymore.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 30 Nov 2013
-
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,372
Yes Ted , they tell you if a fault is present or not and a whole load of other data besides.
I would not be without mine. It tells it like it is unlike.....well.... ahem.... 'whistling' !

Last edited by Bertrand; 30 Nov 2013 at 15:41. Reason: lost a t
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 30 Nov 2013
*Touring Ted*'s Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wirral, England.
Posts: 5,679
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
Yes Ted , they tell you if a fault is present or not and a whole load of other data besides.
I would not be without mine. It tells it like it is unlike.....well.... ahem.... 'whistling' !
Well as you know, I use the BMW supplied MOSS diagnosis computer at work.

£50,000 worth so I'm told.

It is our most important tool by a long way. When you have a Modern BMW connected up to it, there is very little I can't control and diagnose. I feel like the Wizard of Oz when I'm using it. But it takes A LOT of time and training to get the hang of it. We have to go on continuous training courses.

The way I can individually control and diagnose controllers, switches, sensors and inputs is absolutely fantastic. And I think it is also VITAL in modern Motorcycle maintenance. I'd honestly be lost without it with many faults.

Even the other local motorcycle dealers drop bikes off with us to diagnose as they either can't or can't spare the time it takes a none Moss-equipped dealer. Much to their frustration. They can read faults themselves but they can't talk to the bike and do the important calibration and programming stuff.

I am really interested in seeing a dongle in use and what exactly it can do..
__________________
Did some trips.
Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
Can't say anymore.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 30 Nov 2013
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 114
Oh dear,where did it all go wrong?......it all seems to be going down the same crappy road as the modern motor car..don't even sneeze in case a sensor or electrical component is going to have a hissy fit and **** everything up..
Then some half wit decides to use components that need programming to the vehicle or have the information input to it via the dealer specific equipment that downloadeds it from BMW....or audi,vw,mercedes etc for that matter,...high command back in Germany..
It gets even worse when some of he dealers try and tell you how wonderful all this equipment is,ok sometimes it can be bang on correct,but ive seen on quite a few occasions you may as well ask the dog....bark 4 times for crank sensor,bark 8 times for abs control relay....and then sometimes for absolute comedy you get....undocumented code?....It was possible to something with fuel injection and abs that never realy went that wrong....but it's very bad for economy and its much better to churn out this junk that's finished or unviable to fix it once its 4 years old,to ensure the sale of new vehicles.....this may seem a bit negative about certain German machinery....but my experiences with the French vehicles I wouldn't even be allowed to post as I may get into trouble...fuu...........d.....sh.......e..
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 30 Nov 2013
*Touring Ted*'s Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wirral, England.
Posts: 5,679
Quote:
Originally Posted by marcm View Post
Oh dear,where did it all go wrong?......it all seems to be going down the same crappy road as the modern motor car..don't even sneeze in case a sensor or electrical component is going to have a hissy fit and **** everything up..
Then some half wit decides to use components that need programming to the vehicle or have the information input to it via the dealer specific equipment that downloadeds it from BMW....or audi,vw,mercedes etc for that matter,...high command back in Germany..
It gets even worse when some of he dealers try and tell you how wonderful all this equipment is,ok sometimes it can be bang on correct,but ive seen on quite a few occasions you may as well ask the dog....bark 4 times for crank sensor,bark 8 times for abs control relay....and then sometimes for absolute comedy you get....undocumented code?....It was possible to something with fuel injection and abs that never realy went that wrong....but it's very bad for economy and its much better to churn out this junk that's finished or unviable to fix it once its 4 years old,to ensure the sale of new vehicles.....this may seem a bit negative about certain German machinery....but my experiences with the French vehicles I wouldn't even be allowed to post as I may get into trouble...fuu...........d.....sh.......e..
Yup........ That's why I ride a 20 year old Honda
__________________
Did some trips.
Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
Can't say anymore.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 27 Jul 2014
*Touring Ted*'s Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wirral, England.
Posts: 5,679
The abs light will stay on if its an abs problem.. Just stamp on the back brake and see if you can slide it. If it skids, your abs is disabled. If its a newer non servo assisted abs type then your brakes will still work fine.
__________________
Did some trips.
Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
Can't say anymore.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 27 Jul 2014
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Stratford-upon-Avon, UK
Posts: 368
Thanks Ted. The ABS hasn't flashed up at all, I was just speculating. Of course, if it was ABS related then I'd expect the ABS to flash. All I have is a Red triangle. Nothing else.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 27 Jul 2014
*Touring Ted*'s Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wirral, England.
Posts: 5,679
Does it not bring up any codes on the dash with that red light ??
__________________
Did some trips.
Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
Can't say anymore.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 27 Jul 2014
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Stratford-upon-Avon, UK
Posts: 368
No, nothing. Just a solid (ie, not flashing) red triangle.
__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Consider this before buying a BMW KevOK Which Bike? 80 27 May 2014 14:41
Metal frame for shipping for BMW R 1200 GS. harryontour1 Trip Transport 0 9 Jun 2013 07:46
New BMW 1200 GS bdt149 Which Bike? 12 5 Nov 2012 19:11

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

25 years of HU Events
Be sure to join us for this huge milestone!

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

Virginia: April 24-27
Queensland is back! May 2-5
Germany Summer: May 29-June 1
Ecuador June 13-15
Bulgaria Mini: June 27-29
CanWest: July 10-13
Switzerland: Aug 14-17
Romania: Aug 22-24
Austria: Sept. 11-14
California: September 18-21
France: September 19-21
Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes.
(ONLY US RESIDENTS and currently has a limit of 60 days.)

Ripcord Evacuation Insurance is available for ALL nationalities.


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Every book a diary
Every chapter a day
Every day a journey
Refreshingly honest and compelling tales: the hights and lows of a life on the road. Solo, unsupported, budget journeys of discovery.
Authentic, engaging and evocative travel memoirs, overland, around the world and through life.
All 8 books available from the author or as eBooks and audio books



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:30.