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Old 30 Apr 2013
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Which Heidenau K60 for 800GS?
K60 Scout Dual Sport Tire | Heidenau Tires

I'm looking to buy a set of the above for a trip to Morroco later this year. I've read that some people have had issues with the 150/70 B17. Which of those listed above would anyone recommend for my F800GS? The 150/70 B18 looks like the tread I'm after, but I'm not sure if they're correct?

Anyone with any experience with these fitted to an 800 would be very welcome!
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120/90 - 17 M/C 68T TT
130/80 - 17 M/C 65T TL
140/80 - 17 M/C 69H TL
120/90 - 18 M/C 71T TL
140/80 - 18 M/C 70S TT
150/70 B 18 M/C 70T TL
100/90 - 19 M/C 57H TL
K60 Front 90/90 - 21 M/C 54H TL
K60 M+S 150/70 B 17 M/C 69T TL
K60 M+S 110/80 B 19 M/C 59T TL

The stock tire size for the F800GS is 150/70x17 (with last number being tire diameter in inches) so the 18" (B18) you referred to won't work.

Width wise the 140 or the 150 will work. From their website above, seems like you have the 140 option and the 150 option. Both are tubeless (TL)

140/80 - 17 M/C 69H TL

K60 M+S 150/70 B 17 M/C 69T TL

Since it's for Morocco, prehaps an experienced sand and off road rider (Tim?) can comment about the pros and cons of wider vs. thinner rear tires in the sand.
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Ah . . . The diameter number makes sense! Being a tad thick.

I know that logic dictates that no one's going to build a tyre that compromises safety, but the rather large ridge down the centre seems to be referred to elsewhere as not being quite as good as the previous incarnation of the same tyre (the old K60 before it became the Scout). That's why I am interested to know whether anyone else has used different versions. Maybe I'm inventing things to worry about?
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Used the ones with a continuous rim of tread and I didn't like them. Not great on the road, especially when wet. They seem hard wearing which is ideal for touring. The side wall is very rigid so breaking the rear bead is an PITA, even using the side stand trick, but it is possible. I have a set as good as new if you want to try them out for a week or two.
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Thanks for the offer, but I'm going off the idea of these. The search continues . . . . .
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No problem. I like Continental TKC80s but they're not very hard wearing - I think I got 3000ish miles out of a rear. Nevertheless, I really liked them on and off road, wet and dry. Plus, they're super easy to change.
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Great experiences here with Heidi's on a GS12.
Decent manners on/off road and good wear.
Didn't go for the ones with the solid centre strip (150) as it seems to lean more towards road use ect.
Mefo Super explorers are better but don't come in your size I think.
Zenoverland.com is worth a call for K60's, ask for Gabe.
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It's a great tire. I've used both versions in 150/70-18 and 140/80-18 on my KTM ADV 950. I run the 140 now on a 2.5" rear rim (OEM is 4") and with a lightly loaded bike went from Frankfurt to UB via the 'Stans (18,000km) and still have an 1/8" before the wear bar. VERY good mileage. Fine behaviour in everything but deep mud . . . but a Dunlop 908 wouldn't last long otherwise.

The front Super Explorer I'm much less impressed with. Cupping and generally mediocre manners everywhere. A Karoo2 with a Tubliss lasted 11,000km . . . with a tube that tire has been good for less than 8,000km. It's got a MUCH stiffer sidewall than the TKC on a 21" (the TKC on a 19" is much different).
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Has anyone used the Mitas E07 rear?

The Heidenau tires are out due to the centre strip, and people's comments concerning squirming and reduced off road capabilities compared to the previous, non band K60's. Unfortunately, the TCK's are out because I want to use the same tire there and back. The Mefo SE are out due to the company not making them for my bike!?!

I'm therefore considering the E07 rear and TCK front. Part of my trip will involve motorways (in Europe), so I need something hard wearing, but I want something to use off road when in Morocco, so the currently fitted Scorpion Trail's are out!

So, E07's?
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