5Likes
|
|
21 Apr 2016
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Oztralia
Posts: 646
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mollydog
........ Good riding boots will not only save your Tibia/Fibula but good ones will also provide good foot and ankle protection.
|
Sadly that wasn't my experience Molly.
4 years ago I had a low speed fall in loose sand whilst wearing runners. Damage - simple avulsion fracture of right fibula.
16 months ago I had a low speed fall on loose gravel whilst wearing BMW branded TCX Adventure boots. Damage - fibula broken in two places (top and bottom), syndesmosis as a result of ligament tear between fibula and tibia, 2 smaller fractures of the talus.
In essence, the boots, by holding my ankle rigid, transmitted more shock and forces along the length of the fibula.
So, the short answer for me is that it all depends on the situation.
Last year I spent 2 months riding around outback Australia and I wore the riding boots.
I also spent two months riding around Indonesia and either wore hiking boots or open sandals.
Horses for courses, eh!
__________________
Garry from Oz - powered by Burgman
|
21 Apr 2016
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary AB
Posts: 1,028
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mollydog
EDIT
WHOOPS ... JUST REALIZED THIS THREAD IS 15 YEARS OLD! SORRY GUYS! I'LL LEAVE MY COMMENT UP AS I JUST BOUGHT THE BOOTS BELOW A FEW MONTHS BACK ... THEY ARE GOOD ONES ... AND BETTER FOR WALKING THAN I COULD HAVE EVER IMAGINED!
Wow! Thanks for chiming in Grant ... I was beginning to lose faith in our Hubbers here. IMO, everything you've said is spot on. The other important factor is that very few "hiking" boots will protect you when riding. Tibia and foot protection are critical. Most serious hikers/rock climbers I know use a quality, lightweight trainer as Grant suggests. So much better than a stiff, heavy hiking boot. Look at what the pros are wearing these days.
Old school Army boots are IMO, are not very good for riding or hiking. Find a place to stash your trainers, they'll fit anywhere, just not a big deal and HUGE pay off when your looking at a 10 hour hike on rough terrain and max safety when riding with good boots.
Good riding boots will not only save your Tibia/Fibula but good ones will also provide good foot and ankle protection. Mine aren't full Motocross boots but offer really good protection and are very good to walk in ... but I would NOT
do serious hiking in them:
Light, flexible, comfortable, stiff where they need to be and very protective.
TCX Track Evo, about $250. (I paid $170 USD on sale)
|
Sorry to hear that farqhuar. Hope you have a good recovery. You're right though, it's all very relative. But I personally prefer fully armored bike boots. The full leather with no armor as in the picture below doesn't increase protection much more than full leather road boots that go above the ankle in my opinion. I've had an ankle injury with unarmored boots and it didn't take much effort at all. Had plenty of stacks with Crossfires and no leg injury at all (knock wood). Been trying harder too. Still, severity is very subjective. An awkward fall can cause a large injury.
Personally I don't understand why people find boot armor optional but it's commonly accepted that shoulder armor should be in every jacket. Never really felt that I "needed" that myself.
|
21 Apr 2016
|
|
R.I.P.
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: california
Posts: 3,824
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by farqhuar
Sadly that wasn't my experience Molly.
4 years ago I had a low speed fall in loose sand whilst wearing runners. Damage - simple avulsion fracture of right fibula.
16 months ago I had a low speed fall on loose gravel whilst wearing BMW branded TCX Adventure boots. Damage - fibula broken in two places (top and bottom), syndesmosis as a result of ligament tear between fibula and tibia, 2 smaller fractures of the talus.
In essence, the boots, by holding my ankle rigid, transmitted more shock and forces along the length of the fibula.
So, the short answer for me is that it all depends on the situation.
Last year I spent 2 months riding around outback Australia and I wore the riding boots.
I also spent two months riding around Indonesia and either wore hiking boots or open sandals.
Horses for courses, eh!
|
True, always depends on the situation and the way you fall or if the bike falls ON YOU or your leg or ankle get trapped and twisted. Dozens of scenarios play out here, not many of them good.
I can only go on my experiences with dozens of crashes over the last 30 year of aggressive off road riding and 8 years racing AMA Enduro. I wore mostly good Moto race boots, last being Sidi CrossFires'. Many have complained of knee injuries as a result of a "too stiff" boot, so what you say can be true and it's why many racers now wear knee braces.
But in my experience the boots always did more good than harm. But of course, YMMV and "Horses For Courses" is certainly true. I've had the entire weight of the bike land on my foot via the foot peg ... no pain or injury due to good boots.
The TCX shown above have been a nice compromise for me. Good comfort combined with good (not great) protection. The leather is MUCH stiffer than a typical road boot and the ankle is boxed as is the toe area. The Tibia protection is good too. It's not a real stiff boot so walking is good. But it IS a compromise ... but I can guarantee it's better than any hiking boot or Army boot for riding.
I've worn flip flops for short runs around town too. Cool and convenient. But man, there can be a price to pay if you screw up.
I remember my first trip riding Thailand noticing locals riding in flip flops and sandals. Cool! Girls in short skirts or shorts, no protective gear in sight.
Then some Aussie tourists came off their rental bike, did a short slide down the road. We went down to hospital to help Ferry them back to their Guest House. They weren't too bad, just some road rash, bit of embedded gravel. Lots of pain.
But man ... what we saw at the Emergency Hospital was frightening. Dozens of bloody locals awaiting care. Mostly foot, ankle and knee injuries. Usual road rash too but the foot injuries stood out to me ... with BONES showing. Very bloody. A staff person said this was a typical Friday night. Very bloody affair.
I looked like a real Noob tourist, but after that I wore my boots with my shorts!
It's SO HOT and HUMID it takes dedication to wear proper gear. I get that 100%. Just use caution riding!
|
21 Oct 2016
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Devon, UK
Posts: 843
|
|
Like some others here I've ridden off road and can vouch for the additional foot and ankle protection that MX or similar boots give. It's something you're likely to need in case of a dab on rough ground or if the bike topples onto your foot. It's also true that sturdy boots can transfer an injury to higher up the leg or knee, but on balance I still think I'd go for protection of the foot/ankle.
Not MX boots though, as these are really too stiff to walk any distance comfortably, and usually aren't particularly waterproof. They also can be a bit of a struggle to get on (especially if like me your hips don't bend the way they used to).
So I guess we come back to the Sidis that would seem to me the best compromise - higher than the Altbergs for ankle protection but not as stiff or as many straps as MX boots. Sidi additionally appear to do "adventure" boots as well as the classic Courier design. Anyone, any more thoughts?
Links to the websites:
Motorcycle Boots - Classic Styling & High Performance Boots by Alt-Berg
SIDI Motorcycle Footwear and Accessories | Footwear
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Next HU Events
ALL Dates subject to change.
2025 Confirmed Events:
- Virginia: April 24-27 2025
- Queensland is back! May 2-4 2025
- Germany Summer: May 29-June 1 2025
- CanWest: July 10-13 2025
- Switzerland: Date TBC
- Ecuador: Date TBC
- Romania: Date TBC
- Austria: Sept. 11-14
- California: September 18-21
- France: September 19-21 2025
- Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2 2025
Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!
Questions about an event? Ask here
See all event details
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...
2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.
"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)
Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.
Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.
Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!
What others say about HU...
"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia
"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK
"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia
"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA
"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada
"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa
"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia
"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany
Lots more comments here!
Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook
"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.
Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!
New to Horizons Unlimited?
New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!
Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.
Read more about Grant & Susan's story
Membership - help keep us going!
Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.
You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.
|
|
|