Both my wife and I have had the BMW Savanna suits for almost a year now. On our Alaska trip in June we wore the suits with the Gortex liners in with a fleece sometimes for extra warmth. They also kept us dry during day long rains. In the summer across Nevada and Utah without the liners in it was Hot, but it always is, maybe the BMW Airfolw suit would be better mid-summer suit.
As a all weather suit we think they are the best.
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