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2 Feb 2005
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The Big Agnes stuff looks well made and comfy but only 20" wide. I roll around too much for something that narrow. Otherwise I would be very interested.
BTW: Have you visited Barber Motorsports yet? I spent most of a day there strolling among the greatest bikes ever made.
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28 Aug 2018
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Originally Posted by Bobo
The Big Agnes stuff looks well made and comfy but only 20" wide. I roll around too much for something that narrow. Otherwise I would be very interested.
BTW: Have you visited Barber Motorsports yet? I spent most of a day there strolling among the greatest bikes ever made.
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The Big Agnes Q-Core comes in a 25” width with larger tubes on the side which assist in keeping you centered. I’ve been a Thermorest user for 25+ years. But, I recently switched to the Q-Core. It is way more comfortable and packs in about 1/4 of the space. I sleep the entire night without waking on it. They are expensive, but for me, well worth it.
If you go that route, be sure to get the inflation bag which saves you from passing out when filling it! It works well. Also, they squeak a bit when you move. I’m gpoong to try putting a Coolmax rectangular sleeve over it to see if it quiets it (and to be able to comfortably sleep on it on warm nights with no sleeping bag.
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Left-field sleeping pad idea
I've been using the Exotogg for a while now (full disclosure - I developed it). At the launch weekend at the Overland Event recently we were camping, and my airbed decided to give up the ghost on the first night. Although it's primary purpose is as a thermoregulating vest, I designed it to be adaptable and multi-use; so I laid it out flat and used that as a sleeping pad. It worked fine and saved my back. The next night it was used as a pillow, which also worked well.
It inflates with about 4 breaths, weighs 12 oz (340g) and packs down to the size of a grapefruit. Give it a try if you're looking to stay comfortable whilst packing light. https://exotogg.com
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10 Apr 2019
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I've been using the Exotogg for a while now (full disclosure - I developed it). At the launch weekend at the Overland Event recently we were camping, and my airbed decided to give up the ghost on the first night. Although it's primary purpose is as a thermoregulating vest, I designed it to be adaptable and multi-use; so I laid it out flat and used that as a sleeping pad. It worked fine and saved my back. The next night it was used as a pillow, which also worked well.
It inflates with about 4 breaths, weighs 12 oz (340g) and packs down to the size of a grapefruit. Give it a try if you're looking to stay comfortable whilst packing light. https://exotogg.com
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Can I even quote my own message??  Anyway, here's a recent webbikeworld review that explains the Exotogg concept better than I could: https://www.webbikeworld.com/exotogg...ll-of-promise/
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Sleeping pad
I used the Klymit static V ( $48 from Amazon) on my Appalachian thru hike and was quite impressed with it. It is lightweight and packs down really small. The V-shaped air chambers spread your weight well and I used it without fail for most nights of the 5 month trip. I also used a superlight foam yoga mat under the pad for added insulation and to protect the pad from being holed.
I may be throwing a spanner in the works here, but I remember a lot of hikers using that distinctly orange thermarest pad and complaining of the noise that the thing would make when they moved around on it.
I recommend going into a outfitter to try out a few different pads and see what best suits your body type.
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11 Apr 2020
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Thermarest?
I don't know... I got a leak in my Thermarest, Damn thing was only 40 years old. Guess I'll buy another one.
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11 Apr 2020
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No don't. Get a synthetic 9cm Exped. I've done years of unsupported long distance trekking and I would quite happily sleep on that instead of my own bed - it's that good.
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27 May 2020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobo
The Big Agnes stuff looks well made and comfy but only 20" wide. I roll around too much for something that narrow. Otherwise I would be very interested.
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FYI, the Big Agnes Q-Core SLX comes in 6 sizes, the widest being 40” wide.
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- 2017 KTM 350 EXC-F (the Cougar)
- 2014 BMW F800GS (the Goat)
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10 Jun 2020
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I too have found that we need more comfort as we age. The 2 inch thick Thermarest that used to serve me well across Europe was no longer comfortable so put it on E-bay. Replaced it with the Trangoworld Comfort Air, much better. At 65 cm wide, its good for side sleepers, and at 9cm thick provides better support.
At about 800g, not the lightest, but quality is good and comes with an integrated pump that means I don't have to blow humid air into it that eventualy breeds bacteria and fungus. details here.
www.trekkinn.com/outdoor-mountain/trangoworld-confort-air/136403736/p
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