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12 Jun 2009
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Fuel bladders soon available in the UK
I have been in contact with Paul, who manufactures fuel (and water) baldders: www.liquidcontainment.com.au, Motorbike fuel tanks, Petrol Bladder, Diesel Bladder, Av Gas bladder Tanks
He does not retail them. He was looking for a retailer in Europe.
So I contacted Ernie from Overland-Solutions.com: Rally & Overland Fabrications as he seems to be the ideal person to import and retail them.
Anyway, after lots of emails, it seems that Ernie was looking into that and will be selling them soon (format 8 / 10 / 12 litres).
He is not sure yet of format for 4x4 (feel free to contact him and make your suggestions on this).
So there, as there was lots of speculation now you know!
I will publish when those bladders will be available from Ernie. I don't know yet. I need one bladder before end of August so hopefully...
Cheers,
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Well done Maria. I'll be keeping an eye on this thread. Probably a 10ltr in case Ernie is on here.
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12 Jun 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edteamslr
Well done Maria. I'll be keeping an eye on this thread. Probably a 10ltr in case Ernie is on here.
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Thanks Ed!
Ernie will be at the HUBB meeting in Ripley.
I will go ask him when he thinks he will have them in stock. Ask him too.
It will gives him an idea of numbers if lots of people go and ask...
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30 Jun 2009
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Hello! I just ordered a 12 liter bladder from their web site ( www.liquidcontainment.com.au, Motorbike fuel tanks, Petrol Bladder, Diesel Bladder, Av Gas bladder Tanks) and received it in the mail box a week and a half later. Easy!
It looks great by the way, good quality. I don't need it but I'll probably bring it next weekend, just to test it! I love the thought of having solved the extra fuel issue.
I can post a trip rep if it is wanted!
Cheers Tom
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Reason: Adding web address
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23 May 2010
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msr dromedary bag?
would an MSR dromedary water bag work? or would the fuel ruin the material? ive thought of buying one for fuel just to see but they're pricey.
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23 May 2010
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I think this has been covered before. Whilst it is possible to transfer fuel in MSR bags I've seen from experience that everything will smell of petrol and there's a good chance the bag will fail at some point.
There are some chinese fuel bladders on the web but I can't find anywhere outside of Justgastanks in the States that sells them. The Australian ones are the highest quality and the highest price.
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24 May 2010
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Tony-a-Tech Tanks
A far cheaper option is to repeat my effort of last summer.
When preparing for the new Zhilagavo route, the Anabar road to the Arctic Circle, the new Veluski Trackt, the Road of Bones and the BAM road, I just rode to a laybay outside Irkutsk and picked up a couple of abandoned 4 or 5 litre oil cans.
They cost nothing.
They carried all the fuel I needed.
Which is more than happened to my Buddy who ran out despite having a purpose built extra tank.
When back on sensible roads I returned them to a lay by for the next Adventure Motorcyclist with more sence than money!
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26 May 2010
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Liquid containment bladders
I bought one of these bladders (12 liter) and have carried it across Oz a couple of times. Attaching them to the bike is not simple - on the back seat it was an exercise in nailing jelly to a wall. The 4 corner rivets encourage the use of Ocky straps which is far from the best way to secure petrol.
The plastic connector that screws into the bung needs a hose about a foot long attached to it to work. Other niggles are it is hard to fully empty the bladder with the bung about an inch in from the edge. Also the bung hole is only slightly bigger than an unleaded fuel bowser nozzle which means when filling the escaping air blasts fuel spray with it.
The advantages of having this particular collapsible container are outweighed by its drawbacks. I have gone back to a simple old plastic 10 liter container when I need the extra fuel range.
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I think the best advantage they have (from what I can see), is that they pack up small and can be unpacked as needed ??
I'm carrying a 10L jerry can on the back of my DRZ just for the 2-3 times I might need it in 6 months. It takes a lot of space up (but way cheaper than a £500 Safari tank).
Well done Maria, I may have used one of these but I've already built my jerry racks.
They do look very aukward to carry when full though. I think a cargo net and some Carabinas could help there though.
Maybe for the next trip..................
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Options...
I'm trying to work out a fuel strategy for my WR250R. IMS are supposed to be producing a 4.5gal(us) tank that gives me 17L and I already have a 5L acerbis front auxiliary tank on the bike. With careful riding I can average 65mpg easily giving me 315miles. From my previous Africa trip I know this is plenty, most of the time, but I'm still considering the option of being able to carry another gallon of fuel if I need to. I found carrying a 10L jerry in Africa (usually empty) on the back of my old africa twin was fine but not as convenient as something that could fold down and eventually the strap came loose, the jerry slipped round and the exhaust burnt a hole through it when it was empty (luckily).
I rather like the idea of these but it seems expensive for what it is? I'm sure I've seen these on those Chinese websites - the same thing but cheaper. Anyone seen these anywhere else?
Collapsible Jerry Can Bladder (1.8gal) [LC7 Jerry] - $109.99 : Just Gas Tanks
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I am pretty sure that this is the 7 litre chinese one
No stockists in UK yet as far as I know. I guess as it is not CE or BSI marked businesses may be reluctant to get a batch in. I think UK law is 5 litre max capacity in a portable plastic tank. The only seller I have found is in South Africa <<LINK>>
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That's exactly what I'm talking about. Cheaper, foldable (at least), filling hole on the corner, convenient handle. You're right, they won't be able to get it approved as a fuel carrier on the road but as a specialist piece of kit 'not for road use' or something, I'm sure it could be done.
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Finally
I couldn't wait any longer so I bought a couple, for me and a mate and a I also got a spare one. If anyone wants it off me, PM me. It's 7Ltr size (100miles for me) with a 2-part pouring spout that fits back inside the bladder (which can still be folded in half eitherway with the spout in it and rolled up without). Packs very flat but, here's the disclaimer, probably not legal for fuel in the UK but perfect for overlanding. They're over $100 in the States.
Yours for £50
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Goodonya ed for 'biting the bullet'. It'll be interesting to see how much response you receive. I'll take your spare one if nobody else does.
If there's a lot of interest, then why don't we think about doing a group [bulk] purchase?
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