Hello again,
Just a quick question....
Is anyone using the Mosko Moto Reckless 80L on a CRF250L?
Will it fit ok? Is it too big etc...

Thanks guys, I need luggage asap. At the moment my bike is just an expensive toy.

Thanks

Theres a mega thread over on ADVRider with lots of pictures. Many are using it on smaller 250cc bikes. The owner went on West Africa tour where the fitted the Reckless 80 to a small chinese 150cc bike, so it would fit fine i imagine on a CRF250L. Theres also a thread about that trip over on ADVRider.

Getting a Reckless 80 ASAP is not going to happen though. Current version is sold out, besides Mosko Moto are revising it and coming out with a V 2.0 this summer. They'll first be in stock around the start of june.

You could also look into Giant Loops line of luggage, if you need luggage ASAP.

Thanks for the reply. I just took your advice and had a look at the Giant Loop stuff. It seems like good gear but not quite as well thought out as the Reckless 80.
I guess I'll have to wait and use a rucksack for the time being.

Cheers

Having owned a GL (huge one) I can say I sold it because the zippers jamb with dirt, they're a bitch to load efficiently, bad shape to add other bags on top of them, don't attached/detach easily and they aren't waterproof. Good luck if you need something inside down low like your tools (which do need to go down there). I have a ktm 690 with rear tank so filling was always a test of my buddies' patience.

The MM version is far superior looking to me although I'm still on the fence. I like the fact that they seem to address everything wrong with GL, but at the end of the day, they do sit high and they do load your seat/subframe excessively (KTM 690 being the exception being that the tank/subframe appears to be bombproof contrary to what some people think.) If you have an alum or even steel subframe you should definitely reinforce it with a pannier rack or some custom struts. The power of repetetive small impact forces from the bags with destoy subframes eventually.

If you've got pannier frames I highly recommend the Adventure Spec Magadan bags, I've got two sets and they are simple, tough, no zips to go wrong. In stock, last time I looked, and they are quick to deliver.

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You think the 690 plastic subframe is superior to a steel subframe? You may find that false the hard way, as the 690 was never designed to carry luggage... KTM hardparts and some other outfits supply a steel strut luggage frame for the 690 which transfers some of the load weight off the plastic rear end moving it down to the foot peg area where the strut ties in...

Do you really need 80l?

All the before mentioned have their issues, large and small. GL has removed the zippers. I can't say I find their removal hard. Easy even easy to customize. For long trips an in-between size would be good that places the mass more behind the riders calve. Don't really find picking stuff out of them that hard either. I feel that that stuff is secondary to the geometry during riding which will always conflict. Just organise your stuff in stuff sacks which is how you overcome your waterproofing anyway. No bag should be waterproof in my opinion. One stack and it won't be waterproof and then it'll start to hold water instead plus all your stuff it then wet. The job of the bag it to hold and protect.

The Magadans don't seem to hold up well and require lashing beyond what's provided for them to be functional. Plus it needs a frame which adds more dead weight and only worsens geometry. A double negative. The stitching layout of the strap is all wrong and puts undue stress onto the stitching which as a rule is not where it should be. Which is why it needs additional lashing. I know of people that ditched theirs mid trip which is a large write off.

The Mosko looks good but it also didn't put the mass in the correct place as mentioned before. There is no silver bullet as of yet. Good luck with your hunt for something that works. If you have time try making your own. It's not black magic. Done it myself a couple of times.

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Arma, are you able to shed any light on tmotten's comment?

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