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Tubeliss : has someone experience with it?
It seems a genius ideal, sealing the rim with this special high pressure tube, and then no risk for punctures. You can even ride with a flat tire without damaging the rim,
I am interested to have some feedback about it.

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I tried them.
GS500R ~ Fitting Tubliss liners | Adventure Motorcycling Handbook

Actually I decide it was not such a good idea for travel - mostly because of the need for very high pressure for the liner tube. Not sure a roadside pump could hack that and pressures did go down.

Not that they are officially not for road use.
In Switz that might be a problem.

Next time I would keep it simple and do what I did here:
Sealing spoked rims to run tubeless tyres | Adventure Motorcycling Handbook
but better and on suitable rims.

A mate did this a couple of years ago (TTR250) - no probs so far.

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Next time I would keep it simple and do what I did here:
Sealing spoked rims to run tubeless tyres | Adventure Motorcycling Handbook
but better and on suitable rims.
Nice write up & explanation Chris, thanks.

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thanks for the information. I think it's not very important that they are not allowed for road use, nobody will notice them.

I just bought a BMW G 650 X challenge, and the guy mounted Excel Rims with tubliss, and he seemed really happy about it. He was mainly riding in europe and did 38'000km with the bike.

I am thinking about using it on my rally bike, to avoid using costly mousse, and have the possibility to have a lower pressure, which is better for sand, but i am surprised that so few people actually use them.
And they are not very expensive, a set of mousse costs more.

So if any other people have experience with them, please share.
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Thanks Mezo.

Have a look on US dirt bike forums, Zimi. Tubliss are intended for trouble-free rec dirt riding but it's said at low pressures they can occasionally lose the seal (and so, air) when a [stiff side-walled?] tyre folds on a hard-edged hit. A few people I mentioned them to (US dirt riders) had tried but gone off them.

I get the feeling that a tubeless safety rim with the key bead locating lip (see below) and the spoke nipples sealed correctly may work better. But do they make spoked rims with a tubeless location lips?
Not here: Excel Rims and why would they.

I've never tried a mousse, but it does seem the solution to the problems of pneumatics.

Enjoy your XCh. May be selling my XCo today. Get yourself some Hyperpro suspension or similar - it makes all the difference off road.
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Have been using Tubliss on the Dakar for the last 50000km on both bikes, from South Africa to Europe and around Europe. Had 9 front tyre blow outs between us and never had to worry about a face plant. They are safe, easy to use and a damn well better than tubes. If only they would make for 17'
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Good to hear them working well in an actual overland setting.
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I used them for several thousand miles around the southwestern US and Baja, including a good mix of dirt and pavement riding. For me they functioned very well, and the one puncture I did have, I was able to fix easily with a tire plug. I highly recommend using Slime or some other form of sealant, as it functions not only as a sealant but also a lubricant, helping installation and reducing running temperature. The one drawback I found was balancing. It's difficult to put enough weight on the rim with the cheap stick-on weights to get a proper balance. You might need to go with the type that clamps on the spokes. Lot's of info available on advrider. Good luck.
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