Originally Posted by tedmagnum

I think people just assume a metal box is secure and durable.. It's great marketing isnt it.. it looks hardcore.

--It also looks secure and that is a deterent.--

As for security, the locks on most boxes are SHITE !!! You can break them off with a rock. I could open my MM boxes with a tyre lever and even the biggest padlock is only as strong as the crappy aluminium pop rivets that hold the lock on..

--Pop rivets are actually quite strong but could be repaced with small stainless steel fasteners [bolts].--

Woulnt put off anyone apart from a 10 year old.

--I've seen some pretty evil 10 yr olds in the UK .--


The pacsafes are in my opinion, safer.. You actually need wire cutters to get in. Who carries those around with them unless it's pre-meditated ???

--I do ,it's called a Leatherman --

Sure you can cut the bag and pull stuff out, but only if that stuff is small than say a tennis ball and then you'd have to get lucky where you are cutting.

--True but they might have all night to winkle that stuff out of there !--

In my opinion, the BEST solution isto keep your valuables in a removable tank bag and take it with you. Just keep clothes and low value stuff in your panniers.

--I've just read a ride report where a guy was surrounded by a few gang members and had his tank bag ripped off the bike whilst he was still riding it !--