I get conflicting impressions about tubeless tyres. Some say that a roadside repair with the goo/reamer kit is just enough to get you to your local shop and then you need to buy a new tyre. Others seem to say you can run this repair until you wear out the tread...

Is it possible, having 'gooreamed' the tyre, to then give it a more permanent repair with a patch on the inside?

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"Is it possible, having 'gooreamed' the tyre, to then give it a more permanent repair with a patch on the inside?"

Yes, did exactly that with mine. I plugged one puncture somewhere in Peru and eventually got round to putting in a permanent repair in Costa Rica. The tyre started splitting around the repair so a little air was getting out by that point so just got a mushroom type patch put in from the inside.

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I think it's something that depends on too many factors to give one pat answer. I've met one fellow who supposedly rode coast-to-coast on a goo-patched tire with his Gold Wing, and other folks who couldn't ride five feet on it because it didn't work at all.

It probably depends on the tire, the weight, the temperature, etc. and "your mileage may vary"...

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Goo is really unpredictable and can do an amazing job for one rider, but the same goo in the same tyre with a similar puncture and a different rider will barely get him to the next town.

Dealers & tyre manufacturers will usually say any repair is temporary and you should change the tyre asap - in reality a good plug can last for a very long time but I wouldn't trust goo to do the same.

all the best,
Lee

Meant to add - patches often don't work well where you have gooreamed a tyre as they just don't make a good bond. Temporary at best IMHO.

What is the difference between mushroom plugs and mushroom patches?

People seem to be suggesting that plugs are more permanent than goo and that goo makes it more difficult to follow up with a permanent repair?

Could someone please give me links to a good place to buy the various types - mostly so I'm clear on which is which?:confused1:

Thanks!

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This thread does seem rather confused. Maybe some common terminology will help?:

Goo; Liquid sealant injected into the valve. The liquid sets to form the whole plug. Sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. The limit is about a single 6mm hole or many small holes adding up to the same area. Could also include cans of foam that rarely work. These repairs are indeed only designed to get you to a tyre shop. Pre-fill the goo and you only find out it's stopped working when it's past fixing at the roadside.

External plug; rubber pushed in from the outside. The plug seals the hole, liquid adhesive (another goo) holds the plug in. Usually works, varies in how long it stays working.

Internal plug; Near permanant repair done from inside a removed tyre, the plug is mushroom shaped. The head is pushed harder into the hole by the air pressure, so the adhesive (goo) is only a back up and assembly aid. Should last the life of the tyre, but a small number will fail. Rip off tyre shops will refuse to fit these and try to sell you a tyre. Only on sidewall damage do they really have a point.

And no one mentioned tubes. Put a tube in a tubless tyre and it will run hotter. This scares many tyre people yet never stopped them using this as an OE solution on F650's and others. This will last tens of thousands of miles at real world speeds, but get another puncture and you are well and truely stuffed, no roadside repair could remotely be described as easy so you are back to putting goo in through the valve.

Andy