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and the answer is . . . . . .
hello 'eyrewave', firstly congratulations on your purchase. I have a 4x4 iveco from 1995 and am now in USA on my route around the world having come across Turkey, central asia, Mongolia, Russia. They are great, sturdy trucks.
Once you have finally tracked down the cause of your problem then please remember to post the answer here ! I have a similar issue, I suspect glowplugs (as mentioned above) but haven't got around to sorting yet.
Mine is only an issue in below freezing temperatures and it is worst if I am parked at altitude (over 2500m).
Incidently, it would help me tremendously if you could get the bosch partnumbers for the injectors you fitted and also part numbers for the glowplugs if you also replace. be handy for me. Of course that's assuming we have the same vehicles ? mine's the 1995 2.5td.
Thanks n good luck.
Phil.
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Timing chain tensioner? Probability says not. Though when dealing with mechanics I dismiss nothing, including alien abduction of engine parts to repair their spacecraft.
Logic tells me that if it is the chain tensioner you'd have quite a rattle when the engine is running - no?
Plus if the valve timing was out you'd have other engine "issues" and it'd probably not pass it's emissions test.
But I could be wrong.
My first principle is to check the simplest first, the simplest being operator error. Like me changing the turbo in Cameroon when I'd accidentally left a large rag in the air cleaner.
Are you starting it like you should - excuse me if it's a grandmother and eggs thing.
The next is simple mechanical things - like is whatever pre-start, pre-warm thingy you have fitted - is it working?
Is the fuse blown, is it connected, is the relay working (if fitted). Stuff like that.
Then move onto the more complicated stuff like injection timing.
With the timing chain tensioner, imagine a bike chain. Even when it's loose it still turns the wheel - until it becomes so bad it either falls off, breaks, or slips round a tooth or two. Either way, it's fairly dramatic and you know about it. The tensioner works on the slack side, the non driven side and as long as the driven side is taut, then all seems to work as it should.
Another alternative is to move to a warm climate.
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er.. I dunno either
Hi, I’ll start with an apology :
Sorry, I don’t have the solution.
But I can tell you what it’s not.
Our Dailys have a hydraulic tensioner, so unless an alien’s nicked the relevant parts and left a manual adjust in its place, the moment you have oil pressure your chain is tensioned correctly.
There is only one pre-heat plug, it’s in the air intake pipe and is linked to a fuel injection line. At start-up it’s supposed to spray lit (burning) diesel down the manifold which burns slowly enough to light the fuel in the first cylinder to compress. Maybe the starter injection’s playing up.
Mine’s stored under a tarp at the moment, I start it up occasionally.
The clattering I hear lasts just long enough for the oil to get back up to the top of the engine (when you know that it’s metal-metal it seems like an eternity to get the oil pressure up)
I’m not too keen on cranking it with the fuel cut off, because the injection pump then runs on nothing, and will probably cavitate.
An unused engine bellows white for a while too; (although for these occasional static start ups I’m using vegetable oil so I don’t know if that has something to do with it)
Happy hunting, as mentioned before, let us know when you find the solution.
Luke
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Thanks alot for all your replies, much appreciated, i do have a bit of engine reading up to do!!
Its not that im starting it before the yellow (glow plug) light goes out, and am not sure if its the injectors as the last guy put a new one on.
I will post the resolution on here when its found...
(btw Phil Flanagan, 2 things, firstly i have just acquired a 4x4 iveco manual, if you would like it, let me know and i can give you the URL to download, should have all part numbers on - Secondly would be interested in any piccies of the inside of your van, for design ideas. Mines fully converted but am having to do some seriious re-jigging to get a double bed in there, plus still keep the shower and toilet etc - any pics would be grand...)
Thanks again
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(although for these occasional static start ups I’m using vegetable oil so I don’t know if that has something to do with it)
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Hey Luke, have you put in another tank for the veggie oil, and are switching over? or are you just putting the veggie oil straight in? Does it run well on it?
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