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MAN 4WD Dimensions

Gidday everyone, I think this is my first post on HU and hope someone can help out.

I say 'think' because I thought I posted the following question last night, but somehow seem to have lost it on this unbelievably informative site.

Anyway, can someone with a MAN 8.136/150FAE please tell me the track width and the overall height to the top of the cabin on original tyres.

Also, is it possible with sufficient patience, to find an 8.150FAE in RHD,
preferably a low mileage ex-military unit.

My wife and I are in our mid 60's and planning some ongoing world touring ... the Man looks like a perfect base for an offroad camper.

Thanks a lot.
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Have you seen this ?
Man 8.150, Koffer L03 – Used Man 8.150, Koffer L03 in Europe

RHD is going to be very difficult in ex army esp with low mileage
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Thanks tacr2man, but my planning is way short of being ready right now to purchase
a vehicle.

The reason for my questions is to see if the Man 4wd with a pop-top would fit into a high-cube shipping container, or maybe onto a flat rack.

Thanks anyway.
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Thanks tacr2man, but we're way short of wanting to buy a vehicle right now.

The reason for my questions is to see if the vehicle, fitted with a pop-top camper, will fit inside a high cube shipping container.

Thanks again.
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Sales MAN 8-150 FAE 4X4 ALLRAD EX-ARMY (ID: 1074923) Flatbed bodies used (Padborg / Denmark) - Trading Transport vehicles Portal
this gives you some dims , i think too high ?

this is the sort of thing you are thinking ?

Earthcruiser RV Expedition Overland all terrain motor home

Mitsi canter base

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From the 1st ad, 3220 high on 9.00x20 tyres with a 2m high box. So a pop camper with maybe a foot of overlap when popped would end up about 600mm lower? Google says a HiCube container door is 2.56m high, so deflated tyres (or 20" rims made up to just drive in the container) then maybe? Assuming maybe low profile solar panels, no roof extractor fan etc?

As well as for instance a Unimog U1300l will fit on mostly deflated tyres, despite having portal axles so would be taller?

Or just make a normal camper box forkliftable so it and the truck will both fit separately in the same 40' Hi-Cube container one after the other? I don't know how common a container like that would be depending where you are and where your shipping plans may be though?

Can you go and look at one? Or at least contact a seller/dealer? The 1st ad truck doesn't have much carrying capacity either if his kerb weight is unfuelled, no water or people etc., bigger tyres may be good but will weigh more too.

"8500.00 € net, VW, MAN 8150, motor vehicle repair vehicle, type L03, Ident. WVML030403G070146, year 1991, mileage 190,912 km abgelsen according to the counter, manual 5-speed manual transmission, drive about 6 cylinder diesel engine with 114 kW / 155 hp, engine capacity 6871 cc, single cabin with 3 seats, tire size 9.00-20, profile left and right in each 10 mm, wheelbase 3100 mm, wheel formula 4x4, measures in length x width x height 6460 x 2440 x 3220 mm, dimensions box body in length x width x height 4600 x 2430 x 2000 mm, total weight 7490 kg curb weight 6900 kg, axle load front rear 3700 kg 4600 kg, heater, differential lock, power steering, tires, landing wedges, built in wardrobes, flaws, rust sh Photos, more information and more pictures like on request, this description does not constitute a binding offer and may contain errors, no guarantees on all information"
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With unimog if you remove mudshields from hubs you can drive them into containers on the brake discs , without damage if done carefully HTSH
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I would not drive any distance on brake discs, they are cast steel and could crack. It would be a better and maybe cheaper option in the long run to make up plate steel discs to drive into container on.

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Depending on where you are travelling , LHD may actually be better for you as once out of the UK then your steering wheel will be on the correct side and so make driving easier and safer.

Search for 'Bremach' as there are photos of vehicles based on this chassis with both the lifting roof and on disks (factory supplied) for getting it into containers

Ah found one....

Containerverlad - Oliver Reinhard – syt so guet

And the man :-) you need to speak to is Stan on www.theoverlander.net
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I would not drive any distance on brake discs, they are cast steel and could crack. It would be a better and maybe cheaper option in the long run to make up plate steel discs to drive into container on.

Graeme
Have done it several times , no probs , if you are really worried put a wooden plank under lowered vehicle (you have to make ramp into container anyhow) . Have you ever tried hitting brake disc with hammer ? JMHO
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Jacksons in doncaster seem to have a few 8.136's

MAN 8.136 FAE 4x4 Drop side cargo truck // Ex Military vehicles for sale MAN. MOD Trucks

I'm with graeme, wouldn't want to run 8 tonne vehicles on their brakes
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this is the sort of thing you are thinking ?

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Yes, the Fuso would fit in EarthCruiser Overland Vehicles - Expedition Portal


Japanese import RHD? Or Isuzu NPS? (asking, not stating).

Good luck,

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Hello,

Basic model specs (MAN 8.136 FAE - Danish Army Vehicles Homepage)

Length: 5.47 m (213 inches).
Width: 2.25 m (87 inches).
Height: 3.21 m (125 inches).
Weight: 8.000 kg (17.600 lb.).
Engine: Own 6-cylinder, type DO226MFA, 5.687 cm3 (347 cubic inches), liquid-cooled.
Horsepower: 136 at 3.000 rpm.
Transmission: 5-speed.
Transfer case: 2-speed.
Electrical system: 24 volt, negative ground.
Brakes: Air-over-mechanical.
Tyres: 12.5 - R20.
Fuel type: Diesel. Fuel capacity: 140 liter (31 gallons).
Range: 500 km (312 miles).
Additional: Also available as 8.150 (150 hp instead of 136). Some mounted with Sepson 4 ton H50G/63-40 winch.
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MAN dimensions

Many thanks to all who've offered help, particularly rclafton for the containerisation info. A terrific help.

Maybe a lack of info in my first post hasn't helped me in receiving the answers I'm seeking.

To explain, the reason for contemplating the MAN in the first place for a world touring camper, is not my love of older vehicles. However, unlike newer vehicles it boasts mechanical simplicity which can handle high sulphur diesel and lacks electronics, highly competent 4x4 specs including diff locks, and an attractive price...all in a relatively small overall size.

I need to know the track width of the MAN because almost all of the hardcore tracks here in Australia have been made by Landrovers/Landcruisers, and vehicles with a track much wider chew their tyres to pieces on the tough tree roots along the track edges.

I asked about the overall cabin height because I drive heavy transport for a living, and can't believe the figure I've seen quoted of 3.2 metres just to the top of the cab ... that's a long way up!

I'm also trying to confirm what constitutes the MAN's overall width of
2.25 metres. Is that the widest part of the rear tray, or the width to the edge of the cabin's mudguards?

I look forward to the feedback.
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Dont forget there are also open top and flatracks as here

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