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Mixing tyres on a Landy
I have a question regarding tyre set up on my landy. I hope someone can help

On my landy I currently have:

Front tyres

Pirelli Scorpion A/T 235/85R16 tubeless

Back tyres

BFG A/t 235/85R16 tubeless

Two spare (not much tread)

Continetal Conti trac A/T 235/85 R16 tubeless

I have also aquired (thanks Andrew) 5 XZYs tubed tyres of varying tread.

Now what I would like to do is swap the two spares I'm carrying at the moment, with the two best XZYs, which are in a lot better condition than the two spares I'm carrying at the moment. This will not only give me two better spares, but would also enable me to practise repairing with the two tubeless spares.

So, is it advisable to have tubeless as your main tyres and tubed as your spares?

Also, is there a problem with the XZYs being skinny? Are they skinnier than the others? Would this mena I would have to swap both tyres on the axle if I had a problem?

I've read and re-read hundreds of posts here, and have made progress regarding tyres I think. Although I'm still a bit confused regarding what split rims are.

Thanks for the help

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Hi Olllie,

Hope you had a good christmas.

I think the most likely problem is going to be differing tyre diameters affecting the transmission in your permanent four wheel drive system. This caveat also applies to tyres of the same type with different levels of tread. I'm not sure how much of a problem it would be in real world situations - maybe others will comment on this. Personally, as a purist I would not mix tyre types - there's also a handling issue here to consider.

PS Found the tubes at my girlgriends place which I promised you and will be posting them off shortly.

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Merry Christmas Andrew!
Hi Thanks for that Andrew.

As you can tell I'm only just sorting this out now. It took me a while to just figure out the whole tubeless/tubed scenario. The other thing I'm unsure of, is how you put a tube in a tubeless tyre, but that seemed a much more advanced question! I'll wait before I graduate from the tyres for dummies class first

Hope you had a good christmas, I've jsut started to be able to move again!

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why ?
CornishDeity:
I would suggest once your leaving for the big-trip, go with a whole new set of tyres (six), accomponied with a whole set of the same rims (in good condition). You are investing so much in getting this dream come true, why fiddle with different tyre-systems. In the whole picture it isn't that expensive. It will save you from lots of hassle....
I would go for the BFG A/T 235/85R16 tubeless, like you have now, but that's my opinion, and depends on your plans.

If you are afraid of getting stuck somewhere with three flats (!) which are all beyond repair with a tubeless-repair-kit you can take a few innertubes with you. My expercience: if you have to go from tubeless to tubes, you have to rip the tubeless-valves out, but those can be of a different diameter than those on the innertubes ! (which leaves you with useless tubes or drilling holes in your rims on the roadside).


SPLIT-RIMS:


Picture taken from the Tyrepliers-site, a compact discription on tyre-repairs (tubes and tubeless), which offcourse involves using their typeplier-tool and repair-kit, which btw is really a nice piece of equipment.

BTW: For all I know you cannot go tubeless on standard/normal split-rims.

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And for now?
Thanks for that Sophie-Bart. I think for the big trip we are planning on getting a whole new set of tubeless XZYs.

But in the mean time could we go with the set up I've envisaged above. We will be doing a couple fo shake down trips to Portugal and elsewhere, but nothing quite so adventurous as Oz! If I can go with the set up mentioned, then I have some tyres to practise with (i.e. the two spare Contientals), and I think some experience would be great before we go. And I don't want to be wishing for punctures to get the experience!

Thanks again for the help

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Thanks for that Sophie-Bart. I think for the big trip we are planning on getting a whole new set of tubeless XZYs.

But in the mean time could we go with the set up I've envisaged above. We will be doing a couple fo shake down trips to Portugal and elsewhere, but nothing quite so adventurous as Oz! If I can go with the set up mentioned, then I have some tyres to practise with (i.e. the two spare Contientals), and I think some experience would be great before we go. And I don't want to be wishing for punctures to get the experience!

Thanks again for the help

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Didn't want to sound daft.
I can think of problems like Andrew mentioned : "... think the most likely problem is going to be differing tyre diameters affecting the transmission in your permanent four wheel drive system...". But would't be too concerned about it for short trips and driving offroad. For long trips maybe the 5 XZY's are a nice set-up.
Maybe someone else can be of more help in this tech-department.

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Just saw you're planning to leave in 2009. That's atleast 2 years of getting practise! Why not go for 4 new tyres (for instance, the BFG's) take one of the old ones you have now as a spare. When your going for the big-one take the best ones as spares.
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Happy shake-downs !
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