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You came up with some good idears for a place to stay in Berlin so how about Moscow any idears for a place to stay in the city that has some where safe for my bike, i've checked out a few website's most won't take a bike. Cheers Skip

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Budget? In the center or anywhere in the vicinity of Moscow? Hotels in Moscow are generally very expensive. Traffic in Moscow is pretty intense, please be careful.

There is a new Hostel close to the center of the town with a safe parking area.

Basilica Hostel Serebryanicheskiy Pereulok 1a, Tagansky,

109028 Moscow

Joe

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Beej n Chris did a tour that took in Moscow, have a search on the forum for Beej, she may be able to give you a few pointers for Moscow.

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I saw this website recently- Hostel Chocolate Moscow - cheap minit hotel, low cost rooms and rest in Moscow

It is certainly very central and very budget (by Moscow standards!) but I don't know about secure bike parking. Maybe worth you making an enquiry.

I am not aware of any secure vehicle parks nearby, but will look around when next in that part of town.

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not been there yet but that one is on my list
Telephone to ask them re bike parking 8 (910) 420-34-46
N55 45.014 E37 38.737

Hi
Thanks for the feedback on a place to stay in Moscow, in the end i wild camped outside of the city and then spent the following day seeing the sites and then back out again, Moscows not a nice city for a biker the trafic move's at one hell of a pace, after seeing 2 motorway stile crash's in the centre of the city i decided it was not the sort of place i would like to spend any time in.
Safety first, I don't recomend Moscow on a bike . Thanks Skip

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A fair warning for first time, road using, visitors.

I think driving a car here first gives a better introduction to the local 'roadcraft'. Once understood and diffidently replicated it become an easier transition onto a bike.

MotoBelka once described it on HUBB as driving with blinkers on. She summed it up so well.

The unofficial rule of all 4 or 6 wheeled drivers is: watch in front, indicate manovers and then get on with it fast having no regard to anything behind or alongside if half a length rearwards.
Each driver assumes all others slightly behind will adapt to your move - even if they are approaching at more than 40mph faster and about to do the same from the other side!
Overtaking at high speed on all sides, hard sholders, soft shoulders and footpaths is considered normal - subject to the rule above.

Actually a very similar system seems to work just as well in London - but only among bikers.

There are surprisingly fewer crashes here than you would expect. You may see the aftermath of more than in other cities because vehicles involved in any collision, no matter how slight, must not be moved until the Roads Police have been and made a report - this sometimes can involve a wait of several hours. All the time blocking the road, irrespective of the traffic chaos it causes.

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Heh, can't say I didn't warn you...

Tony makes excellent points. I think the problem with Moscow traffic is not the volume of traffic, but the rather bizzare traffic patterns and poor signage (especially in English). For instance, in Moscow it is generally not possible to make a left turn from a major road. I would be interested in the opinions of people who have ridden a lot in London, New York, etc. and in Moscow for comparisons.

As Tony suggests, it is largely a matter of becoming used to the traffic, and doing so in a car first is certainly wise. I have had a bike here for two seasons now and could not imagine living here without one