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riding across boarder - what is needed?
I have a good friend in EU
if he helps me buy the motorbike ..
I should be able to get all needed paperwork from him to ride out of EU - all the way to Finland and down to Turkey...
no problems?
I guess better to make deed in my name?
registration + insurance in his?
and he will give me a notarized letter allowing me to ride across boarders?
please advise..
thank you ..
PS which country do you think is cheaper to buy/tax/register/insure (if needed/inspect/etc.. Germany or Austria or Poland or Slovenia or Italy or Croatia?
thank ..
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29 May 2014
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Originally Posted by InGearX
I have a good friend in EU
if he helps me buy the motorbike ..
I should be able to get all needed paperwork from him to ride out of EU - all the way to Finland and down to Turkey...
no problems?
I guess better to make deed in my name?
registration + insurance in his?
and he will give me a notarized letter allowing me to ride across boarders?
please advise..
thank you ..
PS which country do you think is cheaper to buy/tax/register/insure (if needed/inspect/etc.. Germany or Austria or Poland or Slovenia or Italy or Croatia?
thank ..
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I think that you were given the best answer in your other thread. It is generally not possible for a non resident foreigner ( EU national or not) to buy outside of their own country. The 'loopholes' in the system, as you have already been told about are the UK and Ireland, where all that is needed is a postal address, and where insurance is available (albeit with some difficulty in the UK)
Of the 6 countries you mentioned at the end of your post I think you can totally forget about the last four: you will need a residence permit before you can buy a vehicle in any of these countries. This usually involves an officially confirmed address, as well as a work contract, and at least in Italy, also involves queueing up at police stations for up to a year.
Another possible loophole is in Germany though, where there is a good market for bikes and where it is possible to register as a foreigner, with export plates that include insurance valid for up to six months. You can check this with the German TUV.
Of course you can ask a European friend if they want to register a bike in their name and it might be enough to have you named as a second approved driver on the insurance. This is certainly possible in Italy, as generally the insurance approves anyone who has the correct type of vehicle licence to drive/ride and still be covered. The drawback to this is that your european friend will be liable for any parking or speeding fines that are not settled on the spot. I would certainly not agree to do this for anyone.
Incidentally, on the route you mention, there are no 'B Orders' until you hit the balkans, so that wouldn't be much of an issue, actually I've never had my bike papers checked there, on any border, ever. Last time I went to Croatia was a few days ago and keeping my ID card between my teeth freaked them out so much that I was just waved through with a disgusted expression on the police lady's face...
I remember reading about how turkey insists on vehicles being registered to the person driving them. A notary letter might get you around this, no idea though.
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I think that you were given the best answer in your other thread. It is generally not possible for a non resident foreigner ( EU national or not) to buy outside of their own country. The 'loopholes' in the system, as you have already been told about are the UK and Ireland, where all that is needed is a postal address, and where insurance is available (albeit with some difficulty in the UK)
Of the 6 countries you mentioned at the end of your post I think you can totally forget about the last four: you will need a residence permit before you can buy a vehicle in any of these countries. This usually involves an officially confirmed address, as well as a work contract, and at least in Italy, also involves queueing up at police stations for up to a year.
Another possible loophole is in Germany though, where there is a good market for bikes and where it is possible to register as a foreigner, with export plates that include insurance valid for up to six months. You can check this with the German TUV.
Of course you can ask a European friend if they want to register a bike in their name and it might be enough to have you named as a second approved driver on the insurance. This is certainly possible in Italy, as generally the insurance approves anyone who has the correct type of vehicle licence to drive/ride and still be covered. The drawback to this is that your european friend will be liable for any parking or speeding fines that are not settled on the spot. I would certainly not agree to do this for anyone.
Incidentally, on the route you mention, there are no 'B Orders' until you hit the balkans, so that wouldn't be much of an issue, actually I've never had my bike papers checked there, on any border, ever. Last time I went to Croatia was a few days ago and keeping my ID card between my teeth freaked them out so much that I was just waved through with a disgusted expression on the police lady's face...
I remember reading about how turkey insists on vehicles being registered to the person driving them. A notary letter might get you around this, no idea though.
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good info mate thanks!
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