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Originally Posted by kingkurt
Its seems as though it is as I thought with France and Spain then, lots of free parking if you know where to look
I have found information on a few Aires in the 2 spots I plan to sleep at from some other forums and they look clean and safe.
I should have explained more initially what I am actually doing and driving but I had little time when I posted so here is a better explanation:
The little 1.1 Citroen Saxo I am driving down to Morocco, Western Sahara and onto Mauritania has been modded with rear seats removed and the front seats are collapsible so plenty of space for sleeping, also silver tint on all rear glass and covers for the front windscreen and side windows so no one can see in when the car is in 'sleep mode'. It also has a panic button which sets off the lights and a very load siren ( for wild animals ) in case we get any unwanted attention.
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Thanks for the route suggestions 'Oldbmw' and for the pictures 'backofbeyond' (cant believe you slept in that car lol) and everyone else who commented
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We have traveled many times from the UK to southern Spain and always use aires, and we've nerver had a problem, if you use a bit of common sense and are aware of your surroundings you shoul be ok. As for the caravan/motorhome gassings, the experts at the royal college of anaethetists have to say on the subject.
Despite the increasing numbers of reports of people being gassed in motor-homes or commercial trucks in France, and the warning put out by the Foreign Office for travellers to be aware of this danger, this College remains of the view that this is a myth.
It is the view of the College that it would not be possible to render someone unconscious by blowing ether, chloroform or any of the currently used volatile anaesthetic agents, through the window of a motor-home without their knowledge, even if they were sleeping at the time. Ether is an extremely pungent agent and a relatively weak anaesthetic by modern standards and has a very irritant affect on the air passages, causing coughing and sometimes vomiting. It takes some time to reach unconsciousness, even if given by direct application to the face on a cloth, and the concentration needed by some sort of spray administered directly into a room would be enormous. The smell hangs around for days and would be obvious to anyone the next day. Even the more powerful modern volatile agents would need to be delivered in tankerloads of carrier gas by a large compressor. Potential agents, such as the one used by the Russians in the Moscow siege are few in number and difficult to obtain. Moreover, these drugs would be too expensive for the average thief to use.
The other important point to remember is that general anaesthetics are potentially very dangerous, which is why they are only administered in the UK by doctors who have undergone many years of postgraduate training in the subject and who remain with the unconscious patient throughout the anaesthetic. Unsupervised patients are likely to die from obstruction of the airway by their tongues falling back. In the Moscow seige approximately 20% of the people died, many probably from airway obstruction directly related to the agent used.
If there was a totally safe, odourless, potent, cheap anaesthetic agent available to thieves for this purpose it is likely the medical profession would know about it and be investigating its use in anaesthetic practice.
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At some Aires in France there are people working their snack vans. Ice Cream, soft drinks etc all nice and cool. Some of these I came across were most definately there for a while, maybe unnoficially. A quick chat over a bought juice, and I camped next to their ''home'' van. Although these vendors werent at all Aires.
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Roadside parking in Spain
Hi all,
Here in Spain the roadside parkings are called "areas de descanso", these "areas" are just some kind of bar/restaurant+gaz station+parking area combination with at least a road bar with parking.
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Hi all
I just drove back from Senegal and slept soundly in the car at service stations in both Spain and France with no problems at all and enjoyed clean flushing toilets with toilet roll
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