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The only logical use I can think of having a portable alcohol device is that when you have a drink, you can check if you are still under the limit. If so, you can have a 'top up' drink until you reach the driving alcohol limit .

i.e. there is no sensible logic in this legislation. It is more likely to cause harm than good by encouraging drivers to 'top up' before driving. That has always been the argument against them in the UK.

But of course it's an election year for Sarkozy so all sorts of weird and wonderful legislation seems to be being rushed through to bolster support from minority ethnic and pressure groups.
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Yes, of course, election year - would never happen in the UK of course; buying votes that is!!

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Probably so that if they pull you and you are over the limit they can double fine you .. 1. for being over the limit and .. 2. carrying but not using your kit before driving/riding.
So, does this legislation actually require a rider/driver to self-test before inserting keys into the ignition?


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But of course if you test yourself after lunch, then again after a small glass with dinner, you would have to still have a 3rd as a spare as its illegal to not carry one, which on a bike at least, for a multiday trip, either you need a trailer for all the testers, go teatotal, or perhaps use common sense
But, does the legislation require the single one that is carried, in accordance with the law, to be un-used?
Perhaps, a defence in law, would be "well yes I am carrying one and I tested myself just before you came along, officer".
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But, does the legislation require the single one that is carried, in accordance with the law, to be un-used?
Perhaps, a defence in law, would be "well yes I am carrying one and I tested myself just before you came along, officer".
You are (will be), required to have TWO.
If you use one you still have one until you can get to the supermarket to buy more. They sell them in packets of 2 so then you will have three

I'm going to keep mine under the saddle. They wont be any good because they will get broken but I will have complied. The only way they will know they are broken is if they force me to use one, which of course they cannot. So, as TonyP says, 22 comes to mind.

I don't ever drink when out on the bike except maybe a Panache so I care not a jot

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Easiest solution ... All joking aside, don't drink and ride/drive (it's stupid anyway), spend 3 euro at the chemist for the kits, keep the old bill happy ,, or not . because you aren;t over the limit and you have your testers!! Simples
If only UK M.O.T. and road tax was as easy to get around!!! I foresee trouble ahead ...
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You can also get digital testers, with packs of new mouthpieces for each new test for about £20 if you really wanted to test before riding, and then a newly recalibrated bit for 6 monthly rejigging.

I didn't mean I drink and ride in my last post, or suggest anyone should of course!

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