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Luke,
Sorry to jump in another conversation. You sent me a message about the manual and suggested if my 35-10 might be too old. Mine has the round head lights. How can I see your in avatar? can you send it by zip file? I can't send you a private message. Can we communicate through witteadelaar@hotmail.com?
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Hi folks
just before I start once I have info to provide I will contribute as well as ask at this time Im stuck Ihave 40.10w 1993. Intending to carve of back , replace with grp box. hopwever chasis still very short. Does anybody know if I can purchase normal classic iveco and change running gear and engine to gain longer distance between wheels. I have seen some ivecos that look like they are longer bewteen whell centers or is it my imagination:confused1:
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there are two different wheelbases but I think I am correct in saying the van only comes in short. I am lucky that I have a long wheelbase chassis cab version. Luke is very knowledgable so if you hunt down his posts I think there is info there.
I think you would be taking on too much work to convert a long wheelbase van.
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the long and short of it
Hi Mark
They are either 2800 or 3200. If you extend a short to give you a lot more usable space, the overhang will give poor departure angle, depends where you are going. Also too much weight behind the rear axle will make it uncomfortable, but with a bit of planning it could work. I have just made a box on the back to carry all tools, wheels etc and inside is bed, sink, fridge, cooker, thats all you need.
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It would be a lot of work
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Originally Posted by marky116
Hi folks
Does anybody know if I can purchase normal classic iveco and change running gear and engine to gain longer distance between wheels. I have seen some ivecos that look like they are longer bewteen whell centers or is it my imagination:confused1:
cheers Mark
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Hello Mark,
Welcome.
The Daily 4x4 comes in 2 wheelbases: 2.8m and 3.2m (the short one corresponds to 110 inch)
The 4x2 vans come in a multitude of lengths, some of which would have been nice to see on the 4x4.
As Graeme says, the 4x4 van only came in SWB, the LWB came in different forms of chassis cab or bare chassis (both of the latter are even rarer than the van) and yes, the van is small to live in
If you're gifted in the workshop department the only thing stopping you doing such a transfer might be the regulations (and I don't know anything about those)
The bodies are the same, but the 4x4 has a body lift kit to fit the taller tyres in, you'd have to transfer that or your tyres won't fit (have a look under the wheelarch to comare the two). I believe the wiring looms are different too, and that's where it would get complicated for me.
Have you thought about adding an axle and extending the chassis?
There are a few companies who do 6WD LR conversions, they'll know about the admin side of such a mod.
As the Daily has similar power and weight to the LR, the 6x6 transfer case would handle the job ok, and you'd have a free hand in the suspension choice for the third axle (if you can find one ![Smile](https://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/images/smilies/smile.gif) .
I've often thought it could be a good way of expanding the capacity of a Daily, but when you see the prices of some of the 4x4 HGV on mobile.de, maybe the conversion isn't that financially viable (you still have to build the box too).
Enjoy the planning and dreaming
Luke
p.s. Rob, your Daily isn't covered in the workshop manual that I have, sorry.
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You missed one Bruce!
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inside is bed, sink, fridge, cooker, thats all you need.
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The TOILET!
In the middle of a city it's reassuring to know when the seat was last cleaned (even if it was months ago at least you know who has used it since)
In the middle of nowhere it's relaxing to be able to sit down.
In between the two it's a pleasure not to have to go behind the bushes and tread in what's left by all the others who've been there recently.
Sticky subject
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Hello Mark,
Welcome.
The Daily 4x4 comes in 2 wheelbases: 2.8m and 3.2m (the short one corresponds to 110 inch)
The 4x2 vans come in a multitude of lengths, some of which would have been nice to see on the 4x4.
As Graeme says, the 4x4 van only came in SWB, the LWB came in different forms of chassis cab or bare chassis (both of the latter are even rarer than the van) and yes, the van is small to live in
If you're gifted in the workshop department the only thing stopping you doing such a transfer might be the regulations (and I don't know anything about those)
The bodies are the same, but the 4x4 has a body lift kit to fit the taller tyres in, you'd have to transfer that or your tyres won't fit (have a look under the wheelarch to comare the two). I believe the wiring looms are different too, and that's where it would get complicated for me.
Have you thought about adding an axle and extending the chassis?
There are a few companies who do 6WD LR conversions, they'll know about the admin side of such a mod.
As the Daily has similar power and weight to the LR, the 6x6 transfer case would handle the job ok, and you'd have a free hand in the suspension choice for the third axle (if you can find one ![Smile](https://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/images/smilies/smile.gif) .
I've often thought it could be a good way of expanding the capacity of a Daily, but when you see the prices of some of the 4x4 HGV on mobile.de, maybe the conversion isn't that financially viable (you still have to build the box too).
Enjoy the planning and dreaming
Luke
p.s. Rob, your Daily isn't covered in the workshop manual that I have, sorry.
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Thanks all
its gave a lot to think about, do any of you iveco owners ever meet up in uk
it would be great to see what people have already done as I dont believe in reinventing the wheel. Aaprt from that every one I speak to apart from my dad thinks Im mad,
Mark
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Hi folks
just contacted BT about purchasing a used grp boxs they use on transit, I believe the height gap of cab may be different, but hey lets see where its goes. Does any body know if there are are any regs regarding shape of bodies especially in regard to rear end. See some mogs and ivecos have steped rears. Might get luton body shorten and turn around
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Bog standard
Hi Luke
You are right, as my wife endlessly points out! I have a bucket with a sealed top which works fine, and I prefer it to the chemical option, but I am looking to buy a LWB and fit a fridge box with loo and shower just to get some peace.
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:confused1: ![Cool4](https://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/images/smilies/cool4.gif) Hi all
just been in touch with iveco technical they seem to think the running gear from10.40w wont transfer on to road going 2 wheel drive chassis. however folly engineering will cut your frame in two and extend to any length you require aprox price 3000-4000 grand. My van is 1993 and me 1300 quid does any body know at what price kitted out this year vehicle would be worth trying to work out when it becomes financialy unviable.
Also asked about 3rd axle approx price 10000 grand not going to happen
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I say spend your money on travelling. you will spend too much doing a conversion. either go as is or buy a bigger vehicle if you need one. £4000 will get you half way round the world!!
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iveco dailly 4 by 4 cant find supplier for a towbar can anybody help
iveco dailly 2.8. shortwheelbase towbar required can anybody help I am in Scotland
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Where can I buy one?
I'm curious to know where you can find these trucks.
Sam, How the hell did you end up with 3?
It seems that most come from the italian or swiss army. Is that right, are there any other places where they can be found?
Which governments bought these in big numbers?
Thanks for your help.
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just looked in the warehouse
All our trucks are back at the moment (July and August are our dead time)!
We have 2.8, 3.2 AND 3.7m wheelbases! 2.8 is standard van (but with 7 seats, the other two are 7 seat crewcab with big boxes behind them.
One is from Belgium (Iveco Belgium were very excited when I brought it in for some spares - they didn't know there were any in the country), one from France and one from Italy. All were/are fully civil versions.
They appear occasionally on eBay...
'later, Sam.
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If you want to go for the military version of the 4x4 Iveco (40.10WM) they are occasionally available surplus from the Dutch Army and the Belgian Gendarmerie. Italy, Pakistan and Canada's Armies use them too, and the Chinese do a copy of the WM for their military, but the Dutch and Belgian ones are easiest to find.
The WM differs from the 35.10W and 40.10W civilian 4x4's inthe following ways:
Cab is in glassfibre with 2-piece screen, looks similar to the old 'square' Dailys with round headlamps.
No front freewheel hubs but lever to select front diff lock, not push-button.
900x16 (255/100x16 metric) tyres instead of 750x16 (235/85x16) with lower diff ratios. Much bigger clearance under square arches.
3-piece very thick split rim wheels in 6.5" width instead of 6"
24 volt electrics.
Two-stage paper/oil bath air filter and twin fuel filters.
Quite a lot of minor details too. All are LHD except for eight British prototype ambulances from the early nineties. Basically they are rather spartan - typical military - but a bit tougher if you want it. No frills (pull cable engine stop) but easier to work on (one-piece lift up front).
A RHD WM camper conversion failed to sell on eBay ealier this week, see
eBay.co.uk: expedition overlander not unimog 4x4 motorhome (item 170127128283 end time 11-Jul-07 18:00:00 BST)
Happy hunting!
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