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Putting parts on for various tests and then removing them is fairly standard practice in the UK (mainly exhausts and chips), if a little dubious.....
As well as the legal side of it you might want to check your insurance small print to see if it's invalidated. Normally insurance companies need to be notified of any modifications affecting performance. Annoyingly most insurers only have a few boxes they can tick when it comes to modifications and if the box isn't there they just say 'no'- I just asked an insurer what the impact on my premiums of putting a KX80 front-end, MT50 swingarm and XT550 shocks on a 125 step-through would be and they just got utterly confused......
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Hi guys,
Thanks very much for all your responses.
I agree with the sentiment of not driving above 55mph. I have been driving old Merc NGs and SKs for about 6 years now and I totally agree, it doesn't feel that comfortable when you take it above 90kmph! And also, it does seem ridiculous that you could take a 30 tonne truck and test it as a motorhome....VOSA really have some interesting logic!
Thanks very much again, very valuable advice.
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I'm suprised athe comments above re truck handling at speed. I haven't driven trucks for years, the last being a 1986 foden artic at 38 tons. it was very steady upto 70mph (and on occasion beyond, but any truckers out there will know about us tipper drivers!!) but I guess it's like you say, now they are designed with 55mph in mind. It's an interesting reflection on safety that equally applies to cars. if you design a car to run at 70mph then at 70mph it is on the limit of it's performance. if you design a car to do 140mph then at 70mph the engine, brakes, gears, tyres, transmission etc etc are only working at 50% of their capability. The 70mph speed limit was bought in at a time when most cars struggled to do any more than 70mph, now cars have so much more in hand should the limit on motorways be increase in the UK to the same as most of Europe (around 80mph)
but I guess thats another discussion for another day
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Speed limiters were first used in 1986 but it was in the early 90s that they were made compulsory and this also depended on the age and use of your truck. You will not need a to have a speed limiter fitted if your truck is used only as a mobile home and not for hire and reward ie the carriage of goods, the road Tax will come under P-HGV at £165.00 a year, the plating (MOT) is Class 4 but due to the weight if it is over 3.5tones it would have to be done at a VOSA MOT Station. Just out of interest why do you want to remove the speed limiter? Hope this is of help Skip
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Hi Dave
Just to add my two pen'th. I would leave the limiter on, but get it turned up to 60 mph. This is still the limit for HGV, private or not. Having them set to 55 is EU rules, but means you are stuck in the line of commercial trucks.
Tho' having said that I usually travel at 50 to save fuel, but sometimes it's necessary to get clear of a bunch of trucks, or catch a ferry!
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(MOT) is Class 4 but due to the weight if it is over 3.5tones it would have to be done at a VOSA MOT Station. Just out of interest why do you want to remove the speed limiter? Hope this is of help Skip
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Not exactly true, you just need a class 4 station with either high rated ramps or a pit
My 4 tonne Iveco goes to a bus garage who have ramps that can cope with bigger vehicles for mot
Local councils often have these facilities too
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my understanding is that new vehicles over 7.5tons now have to be fitted with limiters regardless of their use.
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Speed limiters were first used in 1986 but it was in the early 90s that they were made compulsory and this also depended on the age and use of your truck. You will not need a to have a speed limiter fitted if your truck is used only as a mobile home and not for hire and reward ie the carriage of goods, the road Tax will come under P-HGV at £165.00 a year, the plating (MOT) is Class 4 but due to the weight if it is over 3.5tones it would have to be done at a VOSA MOT Station. Just out of interest why do you want to remove the speed limiter? Hope this is of help Skip
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Thanks Skip, this seems to be what i have found out doing further research. I only really would like to remove it from a point of view of 1. it's 1 more thing to go wrong 2. The wiring is cheap shitty door bell stuff and cobbled in very badly 3. I would like to get upto 90kmph on European highways....but of course it can be upped to achieve that.
Thanks again for all your replies.
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