Hi Mollydog, it seems we concur on most things. I thought the Hidenau's were pure evil and yes they have both strange wear patterns and road "manners". I seem to get high milage out of all my tyres. I put that down to a number of things. I neither accelerate nor brake hard and I maintain high pressures most if the time. 32/42 psi. I 've been pleasantly surprised with the Shinko 805, no bad manners at all that I can detect. By front TKC80 now has 18500 klms on it nd it could go some more. But I will change that in Tessalonika in a few days with a Karoo.

BergDonk is indeed the guru of all things DR, he lives just a 1 1/2 up the road from me.

The Cush blocks on the AT seems OK to me, but it is certainly worth keeping an eye on, thanks for the heads up.

The std front end, particularly two up was simply not up to the task. It's all a trade off, but the Ohlins will give better service for sure. None the less I take on board your comments. It's early days yet but I've only wound the dampening up 4 turns out of 16. I'll continue to play around.

Those roads in the video's weren't actually too bad. But "she whom must be obeyed", is getting a little fed up with "shitty goat tracks" (her words)

I'm glad you liked the blog, this year will be mostly asphalt, but a lot more rain I guess.

Recently I read about many cases of AT frames getting rusty...
Some owner considering even replacing whole frame

I was very eager to get new AT since some time but I must say I was
slowly but effectively cured from that wish by now

A relevant and pertinent point for more than one motorcycle manufacturer these days.

Possibly because of "thin" paint, and yet the car manufacturers do not seem to have similar levels of dissatisfaction with this aspect of the finish of vehicles.

Some would say that the usage of water based paints has led to thinner coatings overall. The trade would disagree, but they would say that.

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Hi Tremens

Buy one and find out first hand IMO
Had my AT DCT now for 36.000 KM.
It's a great bike with very few issues.

Your experience is certainly a strong endorsement for the goodness of Honda's new Africa Twin ... but ....

Since we all can't possibly have in person experience with every Africa Twin in the world ... READING ... is about the only way we can gather information, get the opinions of other AT owners.

If you have a better idea to get feed back from HUNDREDS of other AT owners,
I'd love to hear it.

The real test is the credibility of those numerous sources. But even I, who have not tracked the AT that closely, have heard about the foot pegs breaking off in a minor fall. There have been a couple threads over on ADV Rider and elsewhere documenting this.

Others who follow those threads closely might know more ... I don't.

So yes, I read about that and several other rider reviews here and there. Hope that doesn't make me look too stupid!

Of course we may find stuff that's made up on the forums, or hyperbole ... and under reporting of problems too ... which I've seen BIG TIME on BMW forums. (It's like a religion ... criticism is not ALLOWED!

Seems to me the overall experience with the AT is good for most riders ... just a few glitches in an otherwise near perfect machine.

I read all the US and some British bike magazines. I've read/veiwed several good long term reviews, comparos to other bikes ...plus Video reviews on Utube. For the most part ALL GOOD ... and in terms of off road the Honda
has easily vanquished current competition.

Once the new KTM 790 and Yamaha T7 hit the market ... those opinions may change.

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Just checked my bike?
Dam it has the same rust in the same spot??
So what big deal I will cry all night long now and will need to change my bike.
Just checked my friends $4.500.000 Lamborghini Veneno Roadster and shit me found some rust as well.
Wake up it's just a dam bike which can and will rust.

Yes, and by the way, you need to read this .....http://advrider.com/index.php?thread...h-a-t.1172713/

WOW! 18K km is amazing! My TKC did well too, but at round 6K miles
(10K km) the wear pattern started to get weird but that funky tire still handled well. I'm not a fan of Karoo ... but maybe latest ones are better? Been stuck with BMW's guys running Karoo's and quickly running out of tire far away from replacement.

Cool, BergDonk may have some ideas on AT bearings.

One "tell tale" note I remember from Berg's writings was a bit of wiggle in the hubb with bike on stand. On DR650 should not be much wiggle at all.

BTW, you can't tell by looking if Cush rubbers are worn. New and Old, to me, look the same ... but somehow swapping in new tightens things up, smooths out the drive line (this on DR650 ... no idea of affect on your AT)

Hope you two get nice weather. The Ohlins will be "The Dog's ... ". I've got an Ohlins shock on my DR650. When the bike goes, I take the shock with me!

Safe going!

you can swap the tyre the other way around so it will smooth the pattern out, same happened to mine tkc80. Very long lasting tyres, I did over 20k km and I could keep them longer still.