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Time for a timeout - Patrick, you're in the deepest of the deep brown stuff, and one or two others need to be careful. Just because you think someone is wrong doesn't mean it's ok to dump on him.
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Grant,
I've responded to your PM's.
I'm hoping your moderator Chris can PM me and tell me why he's piling on here (Pot/Kettle/Black comment) then posting a "like" on a post with a direct insult in it and not taking any action on that? Fair and balanced moderation?
Maybe Chris could PM me with comments, don't want to further RUIN this KLR thread with more Off topic stuff.
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G'day
Yesterday,Dexta (08KLR)and I had a little blattt up Mt.Glorious Qld Australia and it was good.
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ok, so to answer the thread title question: No. it is still being produced and sold in numbers that obviously make kawasaki happy. same for its "sister" dodobird the dr650.
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Time for a timeout - Patrick, you're in the deepest of the deep brown stuff. Just because you think someone is wrong doesn't mean it's ok to dump on him.
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Over breakfast with (Twowheels03) Paul & Angie we stumbled upon the later part of this thread. Haven't laughed for so hard in quite a while, brilliant course of action!
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I have been follow this thread with interest having recently bought a 2013 KLR.
I am new to this adventure riding stuff at a ripe old age of 67 but loving it. Been on the mountain section of the TCAT and the HUBB meeting in Nakusp this year plus other smaller rides.
The KLR was priced right for me at a hair under CD$6000.00 plus of course all the add ons but most (not every) person adds these to any bike they buy to make it adventure ready.
Anyway back to business. Is not the reality that maybe percentages come into play with this discussion? I do not have figures to hand but I just wonder how many KLR's have been sold in the World vs any other model?
Then I start to wonder what percentage of those models have been reported to have broken down (has to be defined) and that could be key too, vs those that were sold.
I would hazard a guess that the KLR percentage would be relatively small. That is not to say any other bike model sales vs break down percentage may be small also.
Remember "It's not what you did for me but what you did not do for me that I will remember".
Someone said that I'm fairly sure.............
Hope all that makes some sense.
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Anyway back to business. Is not the reality that maybe percentages come into play with this discussion? I do not have figures to hand but I just wonder how many KLR's have been sold in the World vs any other model?
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I don't have EXACT figures either, but if you contact Kawasaki USA I bet they would tell you!
I DO know that according to KHI (Kawasaki Heavy Industries) spokespeople the KLR650 is ... and has been ... one of their VERY best sellers over the long haul, maybe THE best seller for them. Call them, ask. They won't bite.
If I had to guess, for USA/Canada sales? I'd GUESS 8,000 to 10,000 units per year. If you go back to say, around 1990, that's a good number of bikes sold. Remember, Kawi have about 1200 dealers in US/Canada. (used to be more!)
My question would be ... how many KLR650's are still on the road?
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Then I start to wonder what percentage of those models have been reported to have broken down (has to be defined) and that could be key too, vs those that were sold.
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The Big Four used to disclose warranty claim information and break down stats. They no longer do this, AFAIK. But the Japanese always try for a LESS than 3% failure rate. Fact is, they usually do BETTER than 3%. Not bad.
When working as a Moto Journo (20 years) and having attended dozens of
product launches, you hear these sorts of stats touted at those events. But they don't usually publish them now.
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I would hazard a guess that the KLR percentage would be relatively small. That is not to say any other bike model sales vs break down percentage may be small also.
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Back when OEM's did reveal this sort of info, BMW would typically be around 10% to 12% a year failure rate. The Japanese, (as mentioned) under 3%. But that was over ten years ago. They ALL track, analyze and store this data but don't reveal it as they once did.
Motorcycle Dealer News (USA) used to publish this sort of info along with tons of other stats regards sales, marketing and more. Since I was in the industry, I used to read Dealer News. Now, the OEM's are very tight lipped with this info.
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"Now, the OEM's are very tight lipped with this info."
I wonder why?
If the percentage was so good say still 3% wouldn't you want to shout that from the roof tops? If of course you had other brands to compare it to.
Maybe they are tight lipped because the percentage has risen in all brands. Something that would not be good for the manufacturer or us.
Sorry I cannot be more helpful really.
Just at the moment I would trust this KLR to just about go anywhere (maybe not "anywhere" in my hands though!) but I have only about 5000 kms on it.
Maybe I should report back after another zero is added on the end and see how happy I am by then.
Of course there is always the possibility of getting a different bike before then and starting this all over again!
DO NOT anyone tell my wife I said that!
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Just at the moment I would trust this KLR to just about go anywhere (maybe not "anywhere" in my hands though!) but I have only about 5000 kms on it.
Maybe I should report back after another zero is added on the end and see how happy I am by then. Of course there is always the possibility of getting a different bike before then and starting this all over again!
DO NOT anyone tell my wife I said that!
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Come on 'ol boy, 50,000 kms would only be 30,000 miles. You can find many KLR's out there with over 160,000 kms showing.
I'm quite sure you will be able to top 50K kms in a couple good Summers of riding. I've done it and I'm just 2 years behind you.  Not ready for the chair quite yet.
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On my second Gen I KLR. First, '01 has over 100,000 miles and still runs great but looks like hell. Second one, '07, is fixin' to go to Ushuaia.
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